Conservative talkshow host Erick Erickson tore into “moron” Attorney General Pam Bondi on Monday after she claimed “hate speech” did not count as “free speech” and would be targeted by her office.

“Someone needs to explain to Ms. Bondi that so-called ‘hate speech,’ repulsive though it may be, is protected by the First Amendment. She should know this,” weighed in Fox News chief political analyst Brit Hume

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    This is what happens when you choose unqualified people for your cabinet.

    Hate speech is free speech but has consequences that does not mean it’s not free speech fucking 🤡🤡🤡

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    The first amendment protects the freedom of speech against government punishment. It does not protect the speaker from the repercussions from private individuals and companies they might work for or interact with.

    When MAGAts were getting doxxed and fired from for dumb shit they said online, that is the explanation they received. It was the truth.

    We may not like it, but leftist people getting doxxed and fired for shit they say online is exactly the same situation. US companies can fire people for speech they don’t like or don’t wish to be associated with. That’s just reality.

    Don’t say controversial shit online under your IRL identity.

    Now if the regime starts going after free speech as they are threatening to, that’s actually a problem.

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      Her current talking point was that hate speech is not free speech, and the government will come after you.

      She later clarified that isn’t what she meant, but her initial implication was that big brother will get you for voicing your opinion.

      Originally she said:

      “There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place — especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie — in our society,” Bondi told Katie Miller, the former DOGE aide, on her podcast that was released Monday. “We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech.”

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      The kind of ignores the fact that government behind the scenes leans on social media to ban users they do not like as was seen with the Homeland Security Department. They got cause from the far right and then predictably used it more against the left.

      Or with israel, you won’t get banned for what you are getting banned for, they find some other pretext and because we have a zero rights online they don’t have to find something that is actually against their rules to ban you.

      Social media is a public utility and needs to be regulated as such. It should be still at the state level as the feds will not do it in any good way. We should have a right to Fair enforcement of the rules, to know the decisions that went to into taking enforcement actions, and being able to appeal to a jury of our peers or whatever.

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    What? No, hate speech is not protected speech

    Edit: I’m wrong. Hate speech is allowed, unless you’re found to incite a riot. I was thinking of hate crimes, which are violent crimes with harsher sentences if they’re found to be motivated by hate against some marginalized victim

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      Which is kind of bullshit because prosecutors cannot be trusted to tell the truth or ascertain as such. A crime is a crime and should be charged and not treated differently because the prosecutor has caused to impute motives that might never have been there.

      The fools that passed these laws knew or should have known that people like Pam Bondi would be wielding them sooner or later. It did not take a lot of foresight to see how these laws would be abused but here we are.

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    Well, America, it is time to decide on this. If “hate speech” is actually is protected, then you cannot prosecute anyone calling out Kirk for what he was and stood for. If not, people like Kirk would belong behind bars, which would have avoided a lot of issues in the first place.

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      Wrong. If hate speech is illegal those opposing the hate speech sponsored by the politicians are the ones that will be prosecuted under hate speech. How do you guys not get this by now?

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    It’s not that the AG doesn’t know what she said is wrong. It’s that she doesn’t care about the law.

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    Don’t let the far right hear you say that. You may catch a bullet.*

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    *from the aforementioned far right. I am not threatening anyone. Please let me keep my passport.

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      Moron or not, she is correct. The Supreme Court has ruled multiple times that hate speech is protected under the First Amendment.

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        It doesn’t matter any more what the Supreme Court has previously ruled. Speech is protected if it supports the regime and not protected otherwise. Things are moving quickly now.

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          Oh yeah, Brett Kavanaugh saying race can be a factor in ICE detainments even though it directly contradicted their own ruling on Affirmative Action made it clear they don’t give a shit about precedent, even when it’s their precedent.

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    Being a racist, bigot, fascist, or nazi is not an innate human characteristic, it is behavior. Even in countries that do not have insane loopholes in their freedom of expression the concept of hate speech is stringently defined. Calling out someone’s evil, malicious, dangerous, violent actions is not hate speech. Speaking out against hate speech is not hate speech. This is yet another example of rightist reality reversal rhetoric at work.

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    They can think that Trump is ruining their lives and they’ll still vote for him because it’s going to be worse for the Libs.