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The second image is what I saw and liked the shapes in. That is not even part of the photoshoot but a screenshot from a video.

Again those are created by the female form and I know it is objectively pornographic. My eyes see lines and curves everywhere after I analyse abstract art and I presume thats why I was more conscious of it.

What I particularly noticed was her left side, the straight line coming down inwards followed by a curve outwards and the line of the arm besides it.similarly the hands also create a similar open shape.

Its also a compositionally good moment in the video.

The lighting is a bonus. So is the color palette. So is her being good looking. I do like a bit of jewellery on an otherwise nude body too.

I’m sorry if this is offensive, will gladly delete if people do not like it.

The first image I just put in as it is less offensive if seen initially and was directly part of a photoshoot.

Edit: added a third picture which is better than the first, but not as good as the second.

    • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      What Hefner did was, in one way, as old as sex itself: he took the heterosexual male gaze and commodified it. He took the universal straight-male appetite for pictures of semi-naked women and found a way to feed it that became acceptable enough to attract conventional advertisers. But his real touch of opportunistic American genius was the reverse spin that he pioneered: he took commodities and attached them to the male gaze. He took all the goodies of mid-century American life—the hi-fis and the stereo LPs and the nascent color TVs and the Flokati rugs—and made them part of a plausible seeming whole. The “Playboy man” of Hefner’s imagination was as much a creature of his living room as of his lusts. Desire became inseparable from decoration, carnality from consumerism. Only the bachelor with the right Breuer chair could hope to have an active bedroom. Hefner, as someone once said, made the indoors to the mid-twentieth century what the outdoors had been to the nineteenth—the place where you showed yourself worthy of the idea of a man.

      The feminist critique of Playboy came early, sharp, and loud. It was certainly political, and it was also correct. However much Miss July might be asked to list her intellectual attributes alongside her measurements, it was as a measurement alone that she was being displayed. The pictorials came accompanied by a rhetoric of female empowerment, or at least sexual empowerment, but it was in every way a measured empowerment. Proposing Hefner’s ideal as the most desirable body type was not just repellant but in many ways noxious. The anxious adolescent coyness that the enterprise never escaped—in part because anxious adolescent coyness was Hefner’s true signature emotion, a silk dressing gown and a pipe being exactly an anxious adolescent’s idea of sophistication—was essentially anti-sex, replacing the real thing with a synthetic substitute.

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        That’s a lovely write-up right there, mate. I only occasionally read (past tense) Playboy, so didn’t quite get the ‘full experience’ of it, but I see what you’re saying. Hef was in to his cultivated coolness, his sex empire, and his mansion parties, and was seemingly not in to projects, charities, causes, or much else that might have argued him being much more than a semi-sophisticated horndog with a certain amount of power and influence.

        It’s a good question about how much real damage he did over the years to progressivism in the States and elsewhere, not to mention shaping young men’s minds for the worse. In a way, maybe it would have been better if he’d never existed, and that porn magazines remained as more of a pure product, ala Larry Flynt, or in the ‘erotic art’ category, as with Bob Guccione.

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            IIRC (from the ‘plant in driveway’ photo), you’re in Pakistan? How then did you happen to come across Playboy, if you don’t mind my asking?

            • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              Oh its just famous. Just as I know the daily mail. Just part of the public consciousness.

              Dont remember when i discovered it. Probably my teens. Was that Kim k picture with a trashbag and a glass on her butt playboy? That may have been it. We used to make fun of that at school.

              But English language and American/British media and culture is spread throughout the world anyways.

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                Huh. I’d never actually seen that before. [LINK]

                So it’s for something called “PAPER” magazine, I guess. I do think it would have been a little too outre for Playboy, with their chronic faux sophistication angle. And btw, I’m truly sorry the rest of the world had to spend whatever time they did on the whole of Kardashian nonsense.

                But English language and American/British media and culture is spread throughout the world anyways.

                True dat!

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                  Yeah thats the first ‘broke the internet’ image.

                  Also I grew up in Qatar so it was very multicultural. Pretty much all my friends were African, who were very interested in black american culture.

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    I’m not sure either counts as pornographic tbh. The first one is pretty mild by the standard of nudes as art for sure. Mind you, pornography is often in the eye of the beholder, and the lines between erotic art, porn, and simple artistic nudity blur heavily anyway. But nudity certainly isn’t automatically pornographic, and I’m not sure exactly where a pose becomes porn on average.