• Melonpoly@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You need a car to feel grown up?

    Moving to a car centric city has been significant downgrade for me. I’d much rather walk or cycle than be stuck using a car.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah because it lets me take care of things for the household. Go shop for food, get stuff for renovating house, go to work and home on my own…

      I used to just take the bus everywhere but I didnt get anything done. I bought food in the same small overpriced food shop near my apartment, I didnt renovate anything since it was hard to get all the materials home, and I was crowding with others every day at public transport, often waiting for late buses or freezing.

      The car has been a massive life upgrade. If you are reading this as someone who lives in an apartment and are happy with that kind of life, thats great. For me it would be a nightmare.

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        2 days ago

        Yeah because it lets me take care of things for the household. Go shop for food, get stuff for renovating house, go to work and home on my own…

        Like an adult?

        Look, I get that in your case it’s an upgrade. The city you live in sounds like it has piss poor urban design which makes it difficult to think of living without a car.

        I used to walk everywhere and take the train and bus and I got things done, was able to explore and find new restaurants and coffee shops etc. But then work forced me to move an urban hellscape where you can’t do anything without a car and I fucking hate it. I don’t like needing to have an oversized mobility scooter just to get around.

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          It has tons of buses and trains, but without a vehicle, I cant carry any stuff. I cant shop for a full week with 4 big bags of food and then carry that on the train or the bus.

          I cant buy 10 liters of paint and carry it on the bus or train and walk home with it. In theory i could, but its a horrible experience.

          I think living without a car works if you are living in a apartment in the city and you shop at the same nearby food shop every day. But you have no options.

          Even buying something at Ikea would require a lot of planning. To get there with some bus, to pay for transport home, to be home when they come etc etc.

          These are just examples but they add up. Life with a car is freedom.

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            1 day ago

            Okay you’re examples are bullshit.

            You can’t carry stuff? Are you serious? Yes you can carry four bags of food on public transport, it’s not difficult.

            Are you buying 10 litres of paint every day?

            You absolutely do have options, I did not live in an appointment in a city and had a large variety of options.

            Again, are you buying things from IKEA every day? Can you not hire a van for one day? It would be cheaper and more practical.

            These just sound like excuses. You sound like the type of person to buy a truck just on the possibility that you might need to transport a fridge once in a blue moon.

            Life with a car is the opposite of freedom when you are completely dependent on it to do anything.

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              1 day ago

              Its not excuses. I dont have anything to excuse myself for. For driving a car? Thats funny. :)

              I just wanted to give you the reasons most people choose to drive a car.

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                1 hour ago

                So what are they? How often do you buy 10 litres of paint? How often do you buy furniture? How does not having a car restrict you to one shop?

                Most people chose to drive a car because their town/ city has poor urban planning and public transportis an after thought. Go to a city that isn’t built for cars and you’ll see the opposite is true.