• kadu@scribe.disroot.org
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    Steam data is hardly skewed towards a data center with a lot of RAM, and supports the idea of 16 GB being the default for most users, with a newly increased trend towards 32 GB (that is very likely going to be shattered and revert to 16 GB in 2026 given the current scenario).

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      I heard some people are starting to go for older CPU and older gen RAM out of desperation.

      So the amount of RAM is half of the story. Many will not be able to build setups with the current gen of RAM.

      I know I will be stuck to DDR4 for a while…

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        There are literally more amazing games than time to play them if you look the manufactured hype of modern games.

        I can’t see a reason to upgrade my 9 year old 7600k with 16gb ram. I still play everything I’m interested in playing.

        Appreciate I won’t play AAAs, which I am opposed to anyway with their anti consumer practices.

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          The only game that gave my old computer some troubles recently was Alters, but even then it wasn’t much, random stutter here and there

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      Why would the average drop? People already have the RAM so wouldn’t we just see it stagnate?

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          I just find it hard to imagine people will buy a worse computer instead of keeping the one they have, but I’ll happily admit it if I turn out to be wrong.

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            RAM is only 1/3 of the most critical components.

            If you have DDR4 on want to upgrade your CPU, you’ll end up with a DDR5 MoBo, your old RAM will be useless.

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              Not necessarily, most people will be able to upgrade their CPU to a better model with the same socket. Sockets aren’t updated every time a CPU is released, and most people won’t be buying the top of the top even if they were, meaning there’s room to grow as prices drop.

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                If you have DDR4 RAM, no modern* CPU will fit your MoBo.

                * as in: from the last couple of years

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                  Well the last couple of years is pretty restrictive. If you’re upgrading every few years you’ll probably just bite the bullet and pay for the RAM.

                  My last comment was basically saying you can upgrade to the top of the line CPU that fits your mobo, giving you an upgrade for not too much cash. Better than forking out for DDR5.

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        As old computers age out of gaming-worthiness and/or just die, new computers are built to replace them, and the high cost of memory may force some to get less RAM.

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          But wouldn’t people just stick with their current PC instead of downgrade?

          Especially because they very likely can get a better CPU with the same socket, and a better graphics card.

          I find it hard to imagine a scenario where you would go to less RAM instead of keeping what you have.

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            What if your GPU or RAM dies?

            I mean as long as your PC is still viable, sure. But at some point even a partial downgrade can be an upgrade in some ways.

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              Yeah but we are talking about a widespread drop in the average, which I’d think would be more influenced by people upgrading (or not) rather than gear dying.

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        I have a laptop with 32gb of ddr5 ram. It feels a bit slow on windows for work stuff.
        On endeavour os (arch btw), it is blazingly fast

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        People already have the RAM

        Pre-builts and laptops are reverting to 16 GB as default, and those represent the vast majority of yearly PC hardware sales.

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          Among gamers?

          I didn’t even realise 32 was standard, I’ve really only seen 8 or 16 for normal consumer grade stuff.

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          Yeah well, I don’t like crunchy peanut butter but I don’t make it my entire identity or treat anyone who disagrees as a mortal enemy.

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            It is almost as if one of those two things is wildly intrusive and affects everything on this Earth for a number of different reasons, and the other is just a food item.

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              Intrusive? You’re not talking about AI itself. I have a 8GB model file and it is not intruding in anything. It’s actually just sitting on the hard drive not doing anything intrusive at all.

              What you’re talking about are things like Microsoft’s CoPilot AI, or Apple’s Siri integration or whatever other chatbot service that people pay for. Those service are intrusive, but they were intrusive before AI was invented.

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              I sure did insult the anti-ai bots, you are right about that.

              That should not offend people that are not bots.

              You may have your opinions and be a human, but that is not true of everyone who posts on this topic.

              If you’re reading ‘bots’ as ‘people I think are dumb’ or ‘NPCs IRL’ instead of ‘automated posting done with the use of LLM augmented human agents coordinating in teams’ then we’re probably having two different conversations.

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                I mean, you did imply that I make people who disagree with me my personal enemies based on me commenting “Fuck gen-AI though”.

                And why should LLM-bots post anti-AI messages?

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                  I mean, you did imply that I make people who disagree with me my personal enemies based on me commenting “Fuck gen-AI though”.

                  I didn’t say you were not a bot, I only allowed that you were possibly a regular human. Though it is sus that you’re anti-AI and also being offended on the behalf of bots, hmmmm

                  And why should LLM-bots post anti-AI messages?

                  The same reason an LLM does anything, because a human prompted them to.

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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          A meme (/miːm/ ⓘ; MEEM)[1][2][3] is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.[4] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

          “average person eats 3 spiders a year” factoid actualy [sic] just statistical error. average person eats 0 spiders per year. Spiders Georg, who lives in cave & eats over 10,000 each day, is an outlier adn [sic] should not have been counted

          Max Lavergne, Tumblr[1][2]

          “Spiders Georg” is an internet meme that began circulating on the microblogging website Tumblr in 2013. It was created by Max Lavergne as a humorous post involving a common misconception about the average number of spiders accidentally swallowed per year by each human. The post saw an increase in popularity the following year, and the format of the meme has been adapted to other topics, mimicking the spelling and grammatical errors of the original post.

          Now suck on that for a while.

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              Of course they don’t count.

              They’re not sentient.

              Lmao gottem.

              OK here’s a brand new idea: there are more forms of memes than just image macros. Hitler reacts videos are also a meme.

              Got it? No? Still gonna whine? Whatever.

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                OK here’s a brand new idea: there are more forms of memes than just image macros. Hitler reacts videos are also a meme.

                Yeah, a meme can have different forms. I just argue that a screenshot of a tweet withouth further recontextualization is not a meme.

                Got it? No? Still gonna whine? Whatever.

                Ratio shows agreement/disagreement.

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                  recontextualization

                  My idiot in Christ, the OOP recontextualised the original spiders meme with topical references to LLM and RAM shortages and I shared that here.

                  .de

                  That explains a lot.

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    Is there a meme community on the fediverse that is active and bans screenshots of text?

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          Agree on that text only screenshots are often less funny but isn’t that issue solved by downvotes?

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            No, apparently not. I don’t know why, but I think many people don’t care much about this. They see a post they mildly find funny, upvote, move on. At the same time, comments that voice annoyance get the normal amounts of upvotes, maybe slightly more downvotes but are still significantly in the positives.

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        Because it’s mostly boring soapboxing, rather than funny pikchor.

        The OP’s screenshot, for instance, is a shit attempt at a joke that is only popular because it’s saying “AI bad”.

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      A meme (/miːm/ ⓘ; MEEM)[1][2][3] is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.[4] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

      “average person eats 3 spiders a year” factoid actualy [sic] just statistical error. average person eats 0 spiders per year. Spiders Georg, who lives in cave & eats over 10,000 each day, is an outlier adn [sic] should not have been counted

      Max Lavergne, Tumblr[1][2]

      “Spiders Georg” is an internet meme that began circulating on the microblogging website Tumblr in 2013. It was created by Max Lavergne as a humorous post involving a common misconception about the average number of spiders accidentally swallowed per year by each human. The post saw an increase in popularity the following year, and the format of the meme has been adapted to other topics, mimicking the spelling and grammatical errors of the original post.

      Now suck on that for a while.

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    Windows doesn’t even work anymore in 8GB computers. So I’ll be really surprised if 12GB wasn’t the mode, in a strongly high-skewed distribution.

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    Maybe they’ll be forced to spend their time making good games instead of flashier more hyper realistic ones