They were both 37 years old, murdered by federal agents in Minneapolis, less than three weeks apart. On January 7, Renee Good was sitting in her car when she was shot three times, including once in the head. On January 24, Alex Pretti was filming federal agents with his cell phone, exercising his First Amendment right to protest their presence peacefully. They shoved him to the ground and several of them beat him. An agent removed a handgun from Alex’s waistband, which he carried legally, and a few seconds after disarming him, 10 shots were fired in five seconds into his prone body on the ground.

Senior administration officials quickly labeled both Renee and Alex “domestic terrorists,” claiming that federal agents were defending their lives. Go watch the videos online. Alex never drew his weapon. Renee was unarmed, moving her vehicle very slowly. Once shot, agents did not attempt to stop their bleeding or resuscitate them. Administration officials swiftly declared the shootings “justified,” without even investigating them; didn’t start investigating until public outcry proved too much. You can find plenty of videos online of peaceful protesters being shoved to the ground or beaten by a mob of agents or pepper-sprayed in the face.

There’s a pattern building here of arbitrary and gratuitous violence, of lies and cover-ups.

“Equal under the law” apparently no longer applies to anyone anymore; neither does the idea that no one is above the law. Is this who we’ve become? Where will it lead? Are we being groomed for much worse to come, being desensitized into a new normal, like the proverbial frog being boiled in water?

For those who will accuse me later of preaching a “political” sermon, a “partisan” sermon, this transcends politics. Our federal government, by sanctioning unwarranted lethal force, has made this a matter of faith, of basic morality and decency. This goes well beyond politics. We worship Jesus Christ, an innocent man arrested, beaten, and then put to death by the Roman state on false charges just because it wanted to, because it could, because killing him was more convenient.

Jesus was mocked too by those who tortured him, who took perverse pleasure in his suffering, arrogantly assuming they were untouchable. In their lifetimes, they probably assumed correctly. But I wonder how they fared before the great judgment seat of Christ, where all will answer for their sins.

It leaves us wondering what to do now, and what to do next? How can we possibly respond in a way that’s both effective and reflective of who we are as faithful followers of Jesus? Where do we even start? We start where we always start, with Scripture, and we’ll go to the Gospel first.

Mary and Joseph presented Jesus at the Temple, an important moment in their family’s life. Imagine their surprise when they were accosted without warning by two elderly prophets, Simeon and Anna, whose wisdom, gleaned from long faithful lives, gave them insight. They saw how special Jesus was and shared what they saw, in word and deed, with Mary and Joseph. The words of Anna aren’t recorded, just her joy. But we hear Simeon declaring, “This child is destined for the falling and the rising of many in Israel and to be a sign that will be opposed.”

These dark words might feel inappropriate on such an auspicious occasion, but prophets influenced by the Holy Spirit tend to tell it like it is, and Simeon, even in his great joy, saw what was to be: the struggle, the sacrifice to be suffered by Jesus and his parents—“and a sword will pierce your own soul, too.” And indeed, Simeon’s prophecy proved true.

Many resisted Jesus’s message, especially those who had the most to lose, those obsessed with domination and control. To them, Jesus was a threat because they knew that their lies would not long survive the light of his liberating truth. His message of unconditional love was a menace, and they would go and did go to great lengths to smother what he brought to give, but they failed.

They tried Jesus falsely, humiliated him publicly, told lies to undermine him, and finally killed him, but he rose again on the third day, proving that the love of God always wins. Those who oppose the truth of love, who rely on lies and cruelty and brutality, strive to induce us to abandon our principles, and they do it slyly by contriving to make us hate instead of love.

We all know the temptation. We watch the videos and read the stories. Our outrage rises rightly at the injustice, and before we know it, the consuming fire of hatred surges in our hearts. We despise the people responsible, and maybe even fantasize about vengeance, which is precisely what the hateful in our world want most from us and for us. The hateful want us to hate so that we can be miserable and puny just like them. It’s also the only game they know how to play. Refusing to hate confuses and disorients the hateful.

We must stay disciplined in Christ’s unconditional love, disciplined in prayer for those who persecute us and others, disciplined in our desire for the repentance and redemption of the hateful and cruel and brutal, disciplined in our witness that there is a different way, a way of forgiveness and reconciliation given to us by Jesus, who died on a cross and rose again.

In that discipline, fueled by grace, we find strength, a strength that refuses to stay silent. Jesus didn’t stay quiet. He stayed clever, but never quiet, even though his life would have been a lot easier and safer and longer if he would have just shut up. Jesus always advocated for the Kingdom, and brought it to bear against the selfish, tyrannical kingdoms of this world. If we follow him faithfully, then we too need to act and speak out, however we can, when oppressive forces seek to crush the innocent, the weak, and the truth.

Just as the Psalmist first prayed to God millennia ago, we too prayed this morning, “Happy are those people whose strength in in you! Whose hearts are set on the pilgrim’s way. For the Lord God is both sun and shield; he will give grace and glory. No good thing will the Lord withhold from those who walk with integrity.” And integrity cannot be taken away, no matter how much force is brought to bear; integrity is only ever given away.

We can act and speak with Christian integrity, even as we now know that our government might malign, beat, and even kill us for nothing more than simply showing up and asking questions and speaking truth. We can act and speak because we know that Jesus is with us—not only in this sacred space, but in every time and place where we call upon him. And we know that he understands what we’re going through.

That’s part of the whole purpose of Incarnation, of “God with us.” Hebrews is quite clear that “because he himself was tested by what he suffered, he is able to help those who are being tested”; “He himself shared the same things, so that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by the fear of death.”

In Jesus, God walked the earth, in part to know how it feels to be human: to suffer and to be limited, frustrated, apprehensive, intimidated. That’s the quality of love God has for you and me and everyone. The cross was the pinnacle of sacrifice, yet the Incarnation involved a sacrifice too. Just being here with us entailed loss, and by being here with us, Jesus offered a model for how to show up and be present for others, how to resist temptation and evil, how to live faithfully even when it’s hard and scary.

If we fail to act and speak, then who will? It’s tempting to ignore it all and focus on day-to-day exigencies, tempting to be comforted by modest mollifying gestures, tempting to forget how power-hungry governments consistently throughout history have retreated in a crisis, only to surge back with even greater outrages once people are distracted by something else.

Our sole comfort and strength come through Christ. What the months and years to come might bring, no one knows, and things might get worse before they get better, but our hope will not waver, “because he himself was tested by what he suffered, he is able to help those who are being tested,” and Christ has proven through his cross and Resurrection that God’s love always wins. Amen.

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    People have strong opinions about the particulars of Christian Doctrine. It’s been a real problem, both for inside and outside the faith observers. From the beginning.

    Thinking that their is a “correct” version of Christianity is compelling to people who’s business it is to move toward that. But it’s frustrating and obtuse to willfully ignore the differences in Christian practice, doctrine, and behavior. Both in current context and historical.

    If Christianity makes people better, then why doesn’t it?

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      I agree that there is no single right way to be a Christian, but if your goal is to follow the word of Christ as a guide, there are plenty of wrong ways.

      Like if you find yourself murdering and/or pillaging in Jesus’ name, you can safely assume you’re going rouge .

      If Christianity makes people better, then why doesn’t it?

      It doesn’t. I think that’s a good example of the problem with how people think about religion.

      It can help you focus on improving yourself and your relationships with others by being mindful of your own behavior and if you’re making a good faith effort to live a religious life. It can provide comfort and strength when times are hard but it doesn’t just magically fix you.

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    Speaking as an agnostic, this site is a bit too eager to shit on religious folks. Only a bit, because I know a whole lot of evil has been done in the names of gods and I know the frustration of arguing with someone who just explains everything with “god’s got a plan” or some other unverifiable claim,

    But ffs, read the fuckin’ room. Fascism is ascendant and we need the biggest coalition we can get to beat it back into a corner. Besides that, Christians in particular are all about righteously walking into lion’s dens in the face of certain death over things they believe, and honestly that is the exact kinda energy we are going to need from a lot of people if we are going to get through this. Also, doesn’t hurt that they are organized as fuck and a lot do praxis like food pantries and other mutual aid on the regular. You don’t have to believe anything to recognize we’d be doing the fascists a favor by not try to ally with these people.

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    Anyway, I was hoping somebody would discuss the actual text and the relevance to the current situation but since nobody will , I guess I’ll just throw this out there

    “Equal under the law” apparently no longer applies to anyone anymore; neither does the idea that no one is above the law. Is this who we’ve become? Where will it lead? Are we being groomed for much worse to come, being desensitized into a new normal, like the proverbial frog being boiled in water?

    I keep coming back to this part, because it’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately even before I came across this article. I’ve come across a few discussions about this but not as many as I would have expected, and I’m not sure if I’ve just missed other discussions about it or if people have really just kind of been avoiding talking about it because this entire situation is already so messy and difficult to talk about.

    I don’t want this to come off as a distraction from ICE and DHS or as an attack or a critique of what I honestly believe is a very beautiful sermon. It’s literally just a train of thought I keep coming back to over and over for the last few weeks, and haven’t had a chance to really talk about it. I know people can’t read those words without immediately thinking equal under the law never applied to everyone. Neither did the idea that no one is above the law.

    It’s more obvious now than ever now, but it was always obvious long before Trump. This is not who we’ve become it’s just who we are, and really who always have been in so many different ways. Are we being groomed for worse and desensitized to a new normals? Absolutely. But that’s what we’ve always been doing.

    He asks where will it lead, and I don’t think anybody is naive enough to believe a problem like this can ever just magically go away. However, this does seem to be one of those very rare moments where a large chunk of the country actually seems to at least be paying attention at the same time. It’s not everybody. But it’s definitely not an insignificant amount. It’s like we know something is wrong, and its bad enough that for the moment it’s broken through and grabbed our collective attention.

    We know the hold it has won’t last long, because these things never do, and soon we’ll be distracted by something else. Maybe even more divided than we are now. Still, even if we’re not sure we all agree on what’s wrong, most of us seem to agree somethings wrong and we don’t like where we seem to be headed.

    It would be nice if we could just stop for a moment and take the time to figure it out, but that kind of time and patience is not a luxury humanity has ever really had at any point in history.

    Still, even if we can’t stop and fix what’s broken, maybe we can at least agree to use this very rare opportunity to try to take a collective step in a different direction.

    It’s not going to be graceful. It will probably be difficult and awkward as fuck. But while we’re all paying attention to where we’re going, if we even are at this point, it feels like this is a now or never kind of moment. Even if we’re not sure where it takes us, we can at least know that no matter what happens next, we tried to change course while we had the chance.

    Maybe we can actually force this time to be a wake up call that should have happened all those times before. Maybe we can make a point to start talking about and listening to the things that are difficult to talk about and hard to hear, and maybe this could finally lead to somewhere better. Maybe not. But to even get there, we have to be willing to just acknowledge where we’re starting from and try to go somewhere else.

    It reminds me of an article I read a week or so ago about why it’s dangerous to say things like “this isn’t America.” It’s dangerous because it’s a lie you’re telling yourself. This isn’t a bad dream or a some tragic mistake that happened out of nowhere. This has been decades and centuries in the making. It’s quite understandable if this isn’t the America you want. I think we’re (hopefully) all in agreement there. But you cannot keep denying this is America, because we let it become America.

    If we’re not even willing to just look in the mirror at all of the ugly bumps and scars, all the good, all the bad, and all the plain mediocre and at least just fucking acknowledge, “Yep this is us, all 250 years and some change. Maybe it could be worse, but we know it should be better.” Then why would we expect it to ever be better or even any different than it is now?

    Some of it may be hard to look at, and it may make you feel uncomfortable at first especially if you’ve been avoiding looking at it but, it’s still there. That doesn’t mean you should start dwelling on it. You shouldn’t hyper fixate on it, and you definitely shouldn’t make yourself miserable. But, ignoring it is never going to make it disappear or fix the problem. Even if we can’t fix it, we have to learn how to accept it as a part of us. We have to be comfortable looking in the mirror at who we really are and either accepting it as is and letting nature take it’s course, or doing whatever we can to get awkwardly moving in a different direction.

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        I’m not even sure which comment this is replying to but I know I’ve been back and forth replying to you a few times about how religion is all about spreading negativity and hate.

        I gotta say only one of us seems waaaay more preoccupied with religion than the other.

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          Yeah buddy. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch the utter horrors Christianity has wrecked upon the globe, but especially this country, and to hear you pretend all that was fake and the real Christianity was love and peace all along is absolute absurdism.

          That lie is the very one used to shield Christianity from justice when it is a crucial part of the cancer rotting this country and its rights away.

          To you? It’s inconsequential. You can live in that lie because it won’t get used against you. That’s why you can think “wow this person seems upset, it’s not that big a deal.” You won’t suffer the pillaging that Christians perform on a nigh daily basis. Or you’ve convinced yourself you won’t.

          Keep your nonsense to yourself.

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    Listen, I’m not a Christian, but I’ve known what I assume you would consider “Good Christians” and I have fewer issues with them than most who abuse the term. The problem is they’re a small sect, and most “Christians”, at least American Christians are Mammonites taking your god’s name in vain. You should be worrying about getting their attention, not ours. As long as theirs is the dominant faith of the US, the term Christian is only ever going to mean gratuitous cruelty, not the man described in the red letters in the bible.

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      I’ll be honest I don’t even know what that word means and I don’t feel like looking it up right now, but yeah no argument from me.

      Actually distanced myself from religion for a long time as soon as I became an adult, and then my religion kind caught up with me and the entire country.

      Then I realized it was making me think about distancing myself from my country. As in run away like I had done from my religion. So I decided I wasn’t running away. Then I realized I never should have run away. So I don’t really give a fuck what the Marmadukes(?) say. Christians follow the word of Christ. So I guess if they want to keep reading Marmaduke I’ll just be reading the red letters I grew up hearing.

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        Mammon was an early Semitic term for wealth and material success and also the name of a Canaanite God. “Christian” denominations that preach things like the prosperity gospel, who idolize grand displays of wealth, political power, corporate or nationalistic apologism and other heretical beliefs seem to have more in common with Mammon than Jesus.

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    I think Christians should take a break from patting themselves on the back until the whole right-wing Christian fascist theocracy thing blows over.

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      Yeah, this entire “no good Christian” argument is fucking insulting.

      The murdered civilians were good people doing the right thing. That in itself is unchristian by Christian norms.

      To be Christian is to be what ICE espouses right now, in this moment in time. After all, Pope Johnson said so.

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        I’m more willing to hear about the good Christians when I start seeing the supposed Christian socialists that absolutely exist start having any influence over the faith.

        But when I see this “good Christian” shit, it usually just ends up being a cover for proselytizing, aka, raping someone else’s culture, something the Christians have done to millions of people over centuries, erasing whole chapters of human cultural diversity in the process

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          Oh, idk if you heard but state sanctioned murder and violence against people who wouldn’t stay quiet and threats as intimidation tactics to make people stfu aren’t stories in a book.

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            No, those are the literal tactics Christianity has used for hundreds of years to ensure they are the dominant religion wherever they can and they continue to do so today via ICE.

            And you’re right, they’re not stories, they’re very well documented.

            Pretending Christianity is a religion of peace is absolute insanity.

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              I mean do you feel this way about all religions?

              Because at the end of the day religions are a philosophy. They’re not a weapon. This is not even like a guns don’t kill people argument. It’s like a book don’t kill people and video games don’t kill people argument.

              Unless the words have some kind of mythical powers I’m not sure how it’s the fault of the religion or philosophy and not the fault of somebody who decided that instead of using that philosophy to achieve inner peace and spread positivity they needed to use it to control.

              Look at ole Palantir. You think everybody that reads Tolkien then goes on a mission to try and build an authoritarian surveillance state to control the world?

              Now he’s throwing the Bible on top of it like that’s what made him crazy. No that bitch was just always a sociopath.

              I’ve read both Tolkien and the Bible and somehow have never attempted to do any of the shit that Thiel and Karp are doing

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                Shifting blame again!

                We’re not talking about other religions, the topic is about Christianity and the idea that “real” Christianity is about love and peace when it’s demonstrably quite the opposite.

                You’ve created a myth in your head, an unassailable “real” Christianity that has never once existed. It’s the same one used by Thiel and others to justify their horrors and you’re playing along by pretending it’s real, too.

                Again and again you’ll look for ways to shift the blame, never once admitting you’re part of a group that has so much blood on its hands. You’ll still twist your brain into figuring out how deny that and support it “in the name of peace and love”

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                  You’re literally just ignoring everything I say and putting words in my mouth. I have said repeatedly that people do all kinds of fucked up shit in the name of Christianity. I’ve had people do fucked up shit to me while claiming to be doing it out of Christian love. There’s even a quote people use to describe this: “ain’t no hate like Christian love.”

                  But people doing fucked up shit and claiming they’re doing it in the name of a religion is not an actually mean that they are abiding by their religion when they do it.

                  If you believe so strongly that Christianity is a religion of violence, find me a quote where Jesus commands somebody to go commit an act of violence.

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    These are really beautiful words that I feel like anyone with love and truth in their heart might find some comfort from regardless of religion.

    There are a few religious references in bold, but I tried to mainly bold the parts of the message that felt salient but also inclusive.

    I understand that religion can cause a lot of different feelings, and not all of them good and positive. I’ve been there myself, and I very much understand if this isn’t your cup of tea. I apologize if it upsets you, that sincerely is not my intention and I do understand why you feel that way.

    I do feel that in the same way the pastor mentions this goes beyond politics, the reverse is also true. A story of state sanctioned murder, empathy and sorrow for those left behind and intimidation in an attempt to silence goes is more than a story in a religion.

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      Politely, shove it.

      Christianity has never been a religion of peace and kindness. It was the motivation and justification for the colonialist rape and pillaging that founded the United States and it remained a tool of destruction since then.

      Christianity has played a large part in creating the modern right wing and has been, for decades, weaponized as a cudgel to squash diversity and minorities. It’s done enough damage to America already.

      Don’t tell me that it’s actually a salve. Fix your own house before trying to tell anyone how to live.

      Spit your self indulging dreck elsewhere. You’re not helping anyone but yourself.

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        Definitely not trying to tell anyone how to live. Literally grew up southern Baptist in the thick of the modern right wing, had it weaponized against me time and time again growing up and emerged very traumatized and jaded from the experience.

        I can’t blame you for feeling the way you do about Christianity based on how it’s used by the modern right wing and you don’t have to believe me, but that’s not Christianity. That’s a cult and a pyramid scheme.

        Christianity isn’t a church, or crucifix, or sickeningly artificial music that makes your skin crawl, and it’s definitely not a weapon that should be used to hurt people. It took me about 18 years away from it to realize that it was never supposed to be any of those things.

        Those people have a real talent for taking what should be beautiful and good and making it absolutely intolerable. If you don’t take it back and make it what you know it should be, then intolerable is just what it comes by default.

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          Deny, deflect, shift blame. It’s always the same game.

          Don’t try to sell me your self defensive drivel. The reason so much of the America’s follow Christianity isn’t because people were persuaded of its gentle kindness and well-intending nature, it’s because Christians showed up with guns and shot those who didn’t fall in line.

          Don’t try to tell me that isn’t real Christianity. A system is what it does and that’s what Christians have been doing across the entire globe for centuries.

          Wake up. There’s no salvation in raping the planet in the name of Christ. You’re not reclaiming it’s true nature by pretending otherwise, you’re living in denial and by doing so, playing into the hands of those that hide behind people like you to claim their destruction and murder is actually kind-hearted charity.