I think the distribution is fine as long as we still have nodes with good capacity. Our real issue is everyone demanding to be on the same instance because they’re scared of Federation.

What I’d REALLY like to see is a Federated Resource Locator service, kinda like nameservice for a federated user.

[email protected] is 101254684, if I move to [email protected], I want all my followers to do that lookup and still be following me. It’s great to have my settings migrate with me, but it would be bangin’ to have other people linked to me to still follow me.

I’ve already moved at least once and have been very happy it was as easy as it is.

Normal people really don’t like to donate,

I’m on a medium-small instance; if %5 of users donate a dollar a month, the hardware would likely be paid for.

If lemmy.world had %0.01 of users paying, they could probably cover their hardware, storage and network fees.

If you’re not paying the admin’s mortgage, it not that hard to chip in. Unlike the other “options”, no one is getting ad revenue or selling your data, if that’s not worth a cup of cheap coffee a month for 1:20 people they have their priorities in the wrong places. .

want the formerly leftist site to go full maga now.

Reddit and X, sitting in a tree.

Our most precious features is you’ll never have to. If a community turns to shit, they just get defederated. If you can’t find a server that defederates them, you can host it yourself. Your groups will be smaller, and you’ll lose something in the transition, but what you have is what you’ll put up with.

Also helps to not be shit.

Yeah, we also turn a lot of people away by having boring UI and no Algorhythm, but I consider those to be more of a personality filter.

Just stay on the right side of pineapple on pizza.

/s

Monthly Average Users

as opposed to DAU (Daily) or WAU (Weekly)

For a live product, the number of average users / time is a pretty telling metric.

I wonder what the arc will look like this time.

Blocking tor at the firewall level isn’t difficult. Anything with packet inspection can do it.

Edit: I’ve looked into this some more and you’re kinda right. It’s SSL and with very little to give it away except talking to exit nodes. Most of the systems I’m looking at are just discerning it from IP, the few exceptions require SSL MITM, which I also wouldn’t put by the government.

When they get serious about encryption they will make tor illegal as well.

Tor will not hide you from the feds once they decide they really want to go after encryption. They can either own enough endpoints to find you directly or simply go and shut down all the endpoints. Or, If they have other IP leaks that are unpublished…

On the upside they are firing most of the competent people in government so there’s a chance the CIA can’t do that anymore

You make laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. You then attach a multi-million dollar fine to anyone who doesn’t adhere to the bonkers unenforceable stipulations in the text.

All of a sudden, no one but a corporation with a legal department can safely run an instance without putting their money and eventually freedom on the line.

They might not be able to just stop it, but you can force us into a pirate scenario where we have to do it in the dark.

We are likely starting to slowly head into 1984 territory. IF Fascim continues to rise, eventually, non-state-run media will be deemed unlawful and they’ll do what they can to make it go away.

Yeah, you can get away with really cheap operations up until you start blowing through your cdn and communication budget

The way lemmy (and federation) works, it needs to do a bunch of operations that can’t happen simultaneously, so there’s a job queue. The queue needs to do some database operations and a bunch of communication operations and each of the jobs needs to reach out to distant servers that may or may not be overwhelmed themselves.

You start with one server it costs almost nothing to host. Sooner or later you want to split out the job servers, then you end up needing to split out the database, when you start getting that many people on your server now you want to consider fault tolerance, Even after tuning you can only fit so many simultaneous users on a web server, you end up needing to do some load balancing. The next step would be trying to split it up geography-wise.

That’s scaling up and it’s what big companies do and it’s very expensive but easy for a small team to manage.

Lemmy on the other hand is designed to be scaled out, running smaller individual user bases on lighter hardware with a bunch of individual administrators instead of a organized team.

If people want to be on a large single cluster application Reddit is still there.

I like what we have a lot better.

They are, probably even too quiet. But the level of griefers, bots and trolls is very very low, and selfishly, I REALLY like that.

which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

That’s why I donate monthly to my instance :)

A pretty decent sized instance managed will uses a few boxes and some CDN, runs a couple to a few hundred a month, it doesn’t take that many people paying to cover it.

It’s not as bad managing the smaller instances. The app works like it says on the tin until you get really big.

IMO lemmy.world let themselves get WAY bigger than they should have. They had to start doing a hell of a lot more work to keep the thing up.

a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the “normies”

Ohh it’s normal for us. But there are still a lot of sports all-consuming, rabble rousing, linux hating, clue collar people still on Reddit, any I don’t mind them staying over there.

I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I’m kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we’re free to be free over here.

is only going to harm us in the long run.

We don’t have to play ball. not with them anyway,

I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There’s 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

Eventually, it’s going to be ads, donations or payments. It’s all someone else’s computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

How can anyone not love the guy?

YES! #winning