• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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        “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

        -Preamble to the Declaration of Independence (of the United States of America)

        “When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.”

        -John F. Kennedy, 35th President of the United States

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            And doing nothing when someone is violently assailing you seems like it would carry consequences of its own. I’m not advocating that we meet violence with murderous retribution, but when diplomacy fails and someone intends to cause you harm no matter what you do, defending yourself is the only reasonable course of action.

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        I most heartily agree it’s simply senseless and cruel to brutalize other humans, cut their throats wide better to put them down like rabid dogs.

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    A few more instances of this in some staunchly liberal communities and there’s gonna be at least an armed standoff between ICE and a local militia (they’re not all conservative). I’m sure that’s the outcome they’re going for; that doesn’t mean it can or should be avoided.

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      ICE are cowards. Unless someone is actively watching them, they’ll kidnap people when the opportunity strikes

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    Look there’s more than enough handguns in the US of A to arm each and every person who opposes ICE agents kidnapping innocent people illegally. This is not by accident. The second amendment was crafted with this very scenario in mind. It’s time.

    Time to pick up the very arms the Constitution guarantees you have the right to bear to fight the very people your Constitution armed you to fight.

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      Always have an escape route ready. Do your thing then get the hell out of there.

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      While this sounds nice police largely have no fear of consequence because qualified immunity and even threatening to do harm against a cop carries big consequences. The truth is that lawmakers need to step up and make it clear what they’re doing is illegal, that way refusing an unlawful command or protecting yourself can be easily defended in court. Shooting a cop is only going to add fuel to the fire.