cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25027030

In a show of solidarity with the Palestinian-led BDS movement, indie label Ice Water Games has removed one of its projects, open-world tactics RPG Tenderfoot Tactics, from the Xbox store.

    • BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad. Palestine leadership may not be great (or even good), but at least they’re not actively carrying out a genocide.

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        but at least they’re not actively carrying out a genocide.

        It’s simply because they aren’t able to. Look man, Israel is undoubtedly carrying out a genocide and Netanyahu is war criminal who should be given a death sentence for the things he has done. But Israel at least pretends to be good. But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.

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          But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.

          What is this based on? Like, could you (by any means) back up this claim?

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              Thank you for providing that video!

              I hadn’t seen it before, and I can definitely understand why its content is disturbing.

              Granted, as I’m unable to understand the context beyond what AP themselves have provided, I’ll (for the sake of the argument) accept this as Palestinians celebrating an attack on the US.

              Then, my initial intention was to dissect the argument and explain why I can’t agree with your extrapolation[1]. However, to my surprise, your extrapolation might not be as far-fetched as I initially thought 😅. But, this ultimately depends on what you mean precisely. So, please allow me to ask further clarifications:

              • With “Israel would simply not exist on the map today.”, what do you mean exactly? Like, what would come in its place? What would become of the Israeli people?
              • With “And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.”, do you mean something similar like we see on the footage? Or something more grandiose? (And perhaps more sinister?)

              Let me know if you still aren’t convinced.

              Please allow me to take you up on that offer 😜.


              1. That is, “But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.” ↩︎

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                Firstly, I’m glad we can have a civil discourse on this topic rather than resorting to personal attacks and namecalling. I also appreciate the fact that you seem like someone who actually wants to get to the truth rather than defending your stance no matter what.

                accept this as Palestinians celebrating an attack on the US.

                You’re right. The people in the video are in fact publicly celebrating the 9/11 attacks which took the lives of thousands of innocent people. As you can see, it’s not just grown ass men who are celebrating, but children and women too. If this is the level of hatred they have towards the United States, do I really need to explain how severe their hatred for Israel would be?

                Like, what would come in its place?

                That’s an easy question to answer. There would be one country and it would be called Palestine.

                do you mean something similar like we see on the footage? Or something more grandiose?

                I honestly don’t know. But they will be celebrating. And they will want the whole world to see them celebrating. That’s for sure.

                Please allow me to take you up on that offer 😜.

                No problem. Here’s a few things for you to check

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_bombing#Aftermath

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOw7YI7vzo

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xPNTbtUHVc

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wyW-7iJwU

                Again I want to be very clear that I’m not an Israeli sympathizer. I’m just trying to make a point that the Palestinians aren’t the saints that the liberals (btw I’m a liberal myself) often portray them to be.

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          Agreed. Republicans only back Israel because of money. Idealistically they have far more in common with Hamas

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            Not just Hamas. The culture and values of the Palestinian people in general often align more closely with American conservatives than with liberals.

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              Gotta love those down votes for telling the truth right? Leftists hate hearing it but I’m not afraid to say it.