Other countries don’t have fluoride in the water, it isn’t the end of the world. And don’t people usually drink bottled water in Florida anyways?
HOWEVER other places that don’t have flouride in the water do normally have affordable and accessible dental heathcare. And most people brush their teeth with toothpaste with flouride in it. You don’t really need all that much of it, as long as you get some.
With the anti-fluoride mindset, people are not going to get it through other means most likely. And this especially hurts poor people and the homeless, since they are going to have the hardest time getting enough fluoride and won’t have access to dental healthcare. So small issues that would normally be prevented, are going to cause huge issues.
It’s just another way the Republicans can punish the poor.
I moved from a location that had fluoride where I grew up, to one that didn’t as an adult, and with the same oral routine, I went from 1 cavity to like a dozen and multiple root canals.
I’m not saying my routine was sufficient and I’ve gotten better at it, but if people are used to one thing and it suddenly changes, they’re gonna be pretty surprised at the impact.
What are you trying to say? Those are all shit hole countries so it doesn’t matter what they do?
I live in Germany, no fluoride is added to our water and it isn’t there naturally. There is salt with added fluoride available and almost all toothpastes have it. There’s also fluoride tablets people can take. And the dentist will apply fluoride treatments where needed or prescribe high fluoride toothpaste.
Dental care and hygiene is excellent here.
The same thing applies for many countries in Europe.
Clearly there are many ways to administer it and you’re almost proving my point that it’s an important part of dental health. It just sounds like Germany has decided to deal with this problem on an individual level rather than en masse. Big difference with places like Florida is that they don’t have universal healthcare.
I hate most of what Trump and his cronies do, but from what I’ve seen fluoridating water has meager benefits in today’s day and age with fluoridated toothpaste, whilst potentially having side-effects according to a few newer studies. Personally, it’s whatever in my opinion, I’d wait for more conclusive studies that prove whether it’s worth it or not, but I also don’t think it’s a big deal if it’s stopped.
Flouride can naturally occur in drinking water. In some parts of Europe (same article) it’s actually in excessive amounts. Just because they don’t add it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Ok but that’s kinda shifting goalposts. My point was that the vast majority of Europe doesn’t artificially add fluoride into water, probably not without reason. Even then, just 3% of French people receive naturally fluoridated water, for Germany its < 1%, Italy also by the sound of the article probably <1%, Spain is 10%. It doesn’t give information about natural fluoridation levels in Croatia but it’s probably at the same levels and I can attest to the fact we don’t have a cavity epidemic.
Interestingly it also notes this in the article:
In the GDR (East Germany) in the late 1980s, about 3.4 million people (20%) were receiving water with added fluoride… A fluoride cessation study found that consistent with a previously observed population-wide phenomenon that the rate of cavities continued to drop after the fluoride concentration in water fell from the augmented 1.0 ppm to its natural level below 0.2 ppm. Water fluoridation was discontinued after the German reunification although still exists on some US military bases.
My point is that I think it doesn’t really matter whether you fluoridate water or not and that it’s fine to be skeptical of it when the benefits in today’s day and age are minor and there might be potential drawbacks.
Other countries don’t have fluoride in the water, it isn’t the end of the world. And don’t people usually drink bottled water in Florida anyways?
HOWEVER other places that don’t have flouride in the water do normally have affordable and accessible dental heathcare. And most people brush their teeth with toothpaste with flouride in it. You don’t really need all that much of it, as long as you get some.
With the anti-fluoride mindset, people are not going to get it through other means most likely. And this especially hurts poor people and the homeless, since they are going to have the hardest time getting enough fluoride and won’t have access to dental healthcare. So small issues that would normally be prevented, are going to cause huge issues.
It’s just another way the Republicans can punish the poor.
I moved from a location that had fluoride where I grew up, to one that didn’t as an adult, and with the same oral routine, I went from 1 cavity to like a dozen and multiple root canals.
I’m not saying my routine was sufficient and I’ve gotten better at it, but if people are used to one thing and it suddenly changes, they’re gonna be pretty surprised at the impact.
Places that don’t fluoride are their water add it to their salt, much like America does with iodine.
https://static.spokanecity.org/documents/citycouncil/interest-items/2020/09/city-council-information-on-fluoride-2020-09-08.pdf
Every kid who dies of an untreated dental infection is one who couldn’t grow up to vote for Democrats
Most of those “other countries” you refer to are in Africa, the Middle East, and Russia. You’re not selling me.
What are you trying to say? Those are all shit hole countries so it doesn’t matter what they do?
I live in Germany, no fluoride is added to our water and it isn’t there naturally. There is salt with added fluoride available and almost all toothpastes have it. There’s also fluoride tablets people can take. And the dentist will apply fluoride treatments where needed or prescribe high fluoride toothpaste.
Dental care and hygiene is excellent here.
The same thing applies for many countries in Europe.
Clearly there are many ways to administer it and you’re almost proving my point that it’s an important part of dental health. It just sounds like Germany has decided to deal with this problem on an individual level rather than en masse. Big difference with places like Florida is that they don’t have universal healthcare.
And, like, about 98% of the population of Europe…
I hate most of what Trump and his cronies do, but from what I’ve seen fluoridating water has meager benefits in today’s day and age with fluoridated toothpaste, whilst potentially having side-effects according to a few newer studies. Personally, it’s whatever in my opinion, I’d wait for more conclusive studies that prove whether it’s worth it or not, but I also don’t think it’s a big deal if it’s stopped.
Flouride can naturally occur in drinking water. In some parts of Europe (same article) it’s actually in excessive amounts. Just because they don’t add it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Ok but that’s kinda shifting goalposts. My point was that the vast majority of Europe doesn’t artificially add fluoride into water, probably not without reason. Even then, just 3% of French people receive naturally fluoridated water, for Germany its < 1%, Italy also by the sound of the article probably <1%, Spain is 10%. It doesn’t give information about natural fluoridation levels in Croatia but it’s probably at the same levels and I can attest to the fact we don’t have a cavity epidemic.
Interestingly it also notes this in the article:
My point is that I think it doesn’t really matter whether you fluoridate water or not and that it’s fine to be skeptical of it when the benefits in today’s day and age are minor and there might be potential drawbacks.