• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    11 hours ago

    Factually, it’s not either. Both are statements of opinion

    It is not. Hence “factually”. We know for a fact how far people “usually” drive.

    But if you’re like me, you might take a day trip over 100 miles away a handful of times per year. When that happens, I’d arrive home with very little battery left; am I supposed to have the ability to charge for 50 hours?

    I just explained this in the comment you replied to.

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      11 hours ago

      I just explained this in the comment you replied to.

      You explained how it’s doable when you drive 60 miles, which I admit will be most people most days (12 hours of charging at 5 miles per hour charged.) Average EV has 293 miles of range currently; even if you arrived home with 20% battery remaining and you only wanted to recharge to 80%, that’s (at 5 miles per hour charged) over 25 hours. Empty to full is over 58 hours!

      At least once every few months we take a day trip to the nearest “big” city, which is 105 miles away. Typically a Sunday. Leave on a full battery, arrive home nearly empty. 8 hours of charging, and I maybe have enough for the next day. I will run a deficit until the weekend.

      Again, I’m certainly not saying that a L2 charger is a must for all people, or even most people. But I would not agree that L1 is enough for most people.

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        11 hours ago

        You explained how it’s doable when you drive 60 miles

        Read it again. I said 60 miles the day after driving it to 0%. People don’t “usually” need this.

        Average EV has 293 miles of range currently; even if you arrived home with 20% battery remaining and you only wanted to recharge to 80%,

        Thats 176 miles of range. People don’t “usually” need that.

        At least once every few months we take a day trip to the nearest “big” city, which is 105 miles away.

        You said all of this already and I already replied to it.

        I’m certainly not saying that a L2 charger is a must for…most people. But I would not agree that L1 is enough for most people.

        🤔 Wat. Do you think there’s like a L1.5 or something?

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          3 hours ago

          Wat. Do you think there’s like a L1.5 or something?

          There’s the option of a level 1 charger at home, supplemented with an occasional stop at a fast charger.

          The L1 charger is not quite enough to keep up with their usage, but their usage isn’t enough to make an L2 absolutely necessary.

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          10 hours ago

          Let’s agree to simply not tell people what they do and do not need.

          • Ulrich@feddit.org
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            10 hours ago

            I’m not telling anyone what they need. I’m telling you what people usually need. Which is the topic of the conversation you started.