Several hundred people gathered for a pro-Ukraine rally in Anchorage, Alaska, where U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin are set to meet Friday. The high-stakes summit — th…
As awful as he and Trump are, Diplomatic Immunity is legitimately important. Negotiations are impossible with the threat of imprisonment attached to attending.
Do you think Hitler would have been granted diplomatic immunity if he visited?
This is not a normal diplomat. This is a person who has committed multiple, documented, crimes against humanity. He is wanted by the International Criminal Court, commonly known as The Hague. If arrested they are likely to hang him until he is dead for the mass suffering he has caused around the world. That is the punishment the Nazis received.
Legitimate negotiations are impossible without inviting Zelensky and yet they have declined to do so. To claim negotiations require diplomatic immunity for Putin, a war criminal, but not to invite Zelensky is ridiculous.
If you decide Diplomatic Immunity doesn’t exist for one person, then it doesn’t exist at all.
England just decided that public speech in support of Palestine is a crime. If a German diplomat stationed in England was opposed to the genocide in Gaza, would it be okay for them to imprison that diplomat?
Laws against pro-Palestinian speech in England have more legal authority than the ICC has in the US.
Yes, Putin is especially evil. He should be taken into custody and made to answer for his crimes. But that shouldn’t be done during a Diplomatic mission. If he doesn’t leave Russia for anything but Diplomacy, then the civilized world should take the necessary steps to remove him from Russia directly.
I personally am a fan of the complete embargo of countries that are out of control. The US, Russia, and Israel should not be allowed to trade with the civilized world until they step into line.
That’s not exactly how it works though. Diplomatic immunity doesn’t have to be extended to anyone you don’t wish to extend it to. Ambassadors are regularly made to leave countries when those countries have disagreements. Diplomatic immunity is a courtesy, not a requirement.
If Putin steps foot in most European countries he should, by law, be arrested. There is no diplomatic immunity for him. This only happened because America isn’t signed up to the ICC and doesn’t give a fuck about basic decency, human rights, or war crimes.
They extended an invite to a war criminal, to supposedly resolve a conflict, without inviting the other side of the conflict. That’s not how diplomacy works. That’s corruption.
Also, England didn’t do shit. The UK did. Westminster. I should know, I live here. And I don’t live in England.
And it isn’t pro-Palestine speech, it’s pro a very specific group. I disagree with it heavily and view it as authoritarian, but let’s make sure we’re not spreading misinformation here. Support of Palestine Action is banned, not Palestine.
You’re largely correct in how Diplomatic Immunity works. The requirement in diplomatic immunity is that it be extended to a diplomat from the time they enter the country under its protection until they leave the country or their country of origin rescends it.
Putin should be denied immunity by the US and forced to leave. But he can’t be arrested by the US until he’s been expelled from the country and either refuses to leave or returns to the US.
As awful as he and Trump are, Diplomatic Immunity is legitimately important. Negotiations are impossible with the threat of imprisonment attached to attending.
No it isn’t. These “negotiations” are completely irrelevant, and are just two criminals colluding. They should both be arrested on the spot.
Do you think Hitler would have been granted diplomatic immunity if he visited?
This is not a normal diplomat. This is a person who has committed multiple, documented, crimes against humanity. He is wanted by the International Criminal Court, commonly known as The Hague. If arrested they are likely to hang him until he is dead for the mass suffering he has caused around the world. That is the punishment the Nazis received.
Legitimate negotiations are impossible without inviting Zelensky and yet they have declined to do so. To claim negotiations require diplomatic immunity for Putin, a war criminal, but not to invite Zelensky is ridiculous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders
Edit: I’m aware America isn’t signed up to the ICC, that doesn’t change the point though
If you decide Diplomatic Immunity doesn’t exist for one person, then it doesn’t exist at all.
England just decided that public speech in support of Palestine is a crime. If a German diplomat stationed in England was opposed to the genocide in Gaza, would it be okay for them to imprison that diplomat?
Laws against pro-Palestinian speech in England have more legal authority than the ICC has in the US.
Yes, Putin is especially evil. He should be taken into custody and made to answer for his crimes. But that shouldn’t be done during a Diplomatic mission. If he doesn’t leave Russia for anything but Diplomacy, then the civilized world should take the necessary steps to remove him from Russia directly.
I personally am a fan of the complete embargo of countries that are out of control. The US, Russia, and Israel should not be allowed to trade with the civilized world until they step into line.
That’s not exactly how it works though. Diplomatic immunity doesn’t have to be extended to anyone you don’t wish to extend it to. Ambassadors are regularly made to leave countries when those countries have disagreements. Diplomatic immunity is a courtesy, not a requirement.
If Putin steps foot in most European countries he should, by law, be arrested. There is no diplomatic immunity for him. This only happened because America isn’t signed up to the ICC and doesn’t give a fuck about basic decency, human rights, or war crimes.
They extended an invite to a war criminal, to supposedly resolve a conflict, without inviting the other side of the conflict. That’s not how diplomacy works. That’s corruption.
Also, England didn’t do shit. The UK did. Westminster. I should know, I live here. And I don’t live in England.
And it isn’t pro-Palestine speech, it’s pro a very specific group. I disagree with it heavily and view it as authoritarian, but let’s make sure we’re not spreading misinformation here. Support of Palestine Action is banned, not Palestine.
You’re largely correct in how Diplomatic Immunity works. The requirement in diplomatic immunity is that it be extended to a diplomat from the time they enter the country under its protection until they leave the country or their country of origin rescends it.
Putin should be denied immunity by the US and forced to leave. But he can’t be arrested by the US until he’s been expelled from the country and either refuses to leave or returns to the US.