Ukraine was constitutionally and treaty-bound to neutrality. That was one of the conditions for their independence. They violated that condition in 2014 when they decided to become an anti-Russia NATO proxy. They invaded and bombed the Donbass republics which declared independence following an illegal and unconstitutional Nazi coup in 2014. They took away the constitutionally protected status of the Russian language and have systematically repressed its use and persecuted its speakers.
Russia acted strictly according to international law fulfilling their humanitarian obligation to protect the people of the Donbass from genocide, who were under attack and formally requested Russia’s assistance according to the legal right to collective self-defense enshrined in article 51 of the UN charter.
Ukraine never joined NATO. Inventing bullshit arguments about friendships with nations you dislike. In no fucking way counts as a treaty violation. Invading another fucking nation dose.
The illegitimate post-2014 Kiev regime changed the Ukrainian constitution to include an explicit statement of intent to join NATO. NATO has been courting Ukraine since at least 2008. NATO pumped Ukraine full of weapons and military training. The anti-Russian Neo-Nazi junta that illegally seized control of the country after the Maidan coup severed trade and diplomatic ties with Russia in favor of NATO and the EU. Kiev agreed to host NATO troops and bases on Ukrainian territory. All of this happened before Russia intervened in 2022. All of these constitute a violation of their neutrality pledge.
So after Russia invaded breaking it’s treaty commitment to respect the borders and sovereignty of Ukraine. Ukraine no longer followed it’s commitments under the broken treaty.
Yes that is the way things work.
Now maybe Russia should hand back the fucking nuke it got in return for agreeing to respect that soverinty.
Your argument are no more then trollinsh bollocks with zero merit.
In 1997, the borders of Ukraine were the internationally recognized borders it inherited upon the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, which included its territory from the Black Sea to its borders with Belarus, Russia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Moldova. This was confirmed by the 1997 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, known as the “Big Treaty,” which legally bound Russia to respect Ukraine’s existing borders.
So Russia agreed to respect the 1991 borders. Then broke that agreement.
Besides the point. Ukraine only indicated a desire to Join NATO indicating a desire. Even in its constitution is not breaking the agreement. But a act of democratic will.
You are basically arguing.
"Oh it looks to me that Ukraine’s population wants to break a treaty we have already proven we will not abide by. We had a right to attack in the past. "
You are talking out your arse and have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.
The West also pledged to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty. They broke that pledge first in 2004 when they instigated the first color revolution in Ukraine, then again when they orchestrated the 2014 coup. Interference in another country’s politics is a violation of sovereignty. Everything Russia did followed as a result of that. Ukraine lost its sovereignty in 2014 when it became a NATO-US puppet. There was no sovereignty left for Russia to violate.
Russia had a humanitarian duty to intervene to stop the attack on the Donbass.
Ukraine was constitutionally and treaty-bound to neutrality. That was one of the conditions for their independence. They violated that condition in 2014 when they decided to become an anti-Russia NATO proxy. They invaded and bombed the Donbass republics which declared independence following an illegal and unconstitutional Nazi coup in 2014. They took away the constitutionally protected status of the Russian language and have systematically repressed its use and persecuted its speakers.
Russia acted strictly according to international law fulfilling their humanitarian obligation to protect the people of the Donbass from genocide, who were under attack and formally requested Russia’s assistance according to the legal right to collective self-defense enshrined in article 51 of the UN charter.
Ukraine never joined NATO. Inventing bullshit arguments about friendships with nations you dislike. In no fucking way counts as a treaty violation. Invading another fucking nation dose.
The illegitimate post-2014 Kiev regime changed the Ukrainian constitution to include an explicit statement of intent to join NATO. NATO has been courting Ukraine since at least 2008. NATO pumped Ukraine full of weapons and military training. The anti-Russian Neo-Nazi junta that illegally seized control of the country after the Maidan coup severed trade and diplomatic ties with Russia in favor of NATO and the EU. Kiev agreed to host NATO troops and bases on Ukrainian territory. All of this happened before Russia intervened in 2022. All of these constitute a violation of their neutrality pledge.
So after Russia invaded breaking it’s treaty commitment to respect the borders and sovereignty of Ukraine. Ukraine no longer followed it’s commitments under the broken treaty.
Yes that is the way things work.
Now maybe Russia should hand back the fucking nuke it got in return for agreeing to respect that soverinty.
Your argument are no more then trollinsh bollocks with zero merit.
2022 was before 2014? Lib logic…
Bullshit.
In 1997, the borders of Ukraine were the internationally recognized borders it inherited upon the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, which included its territory from the Black Sea to its borders with Belarus, Russia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Moldova. This was confirmed by the 1997 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, known as the “Big Treaty,” which legally bound Russia to respect Ukraine’s existing borders.
So Russia agreed to respect the 1991 borders. Then broke that agreement.
Besides the point. Ukraine only indicated a desire to Join NATO indicating a desire. Even in its constitution is not breaking the agreement. But a act of democratic will.
You are basically arguing.
"Oh it looks to me that Ukraine’s population wants to break a treaty we have already proven we will not abide by. We had a right to attack in the past. "
You are talking out your arse and have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.
Goodbye.
The West also pledged to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty. They broke that pledge first in 2004 when they instigated the first color revolution in Ukraine, then again when they orchestrated the 2014 coup. Interference in another country’s politics is a violation of sovereignty. Everything Russia did followed as a result of that. Ukraine lost its sovereignty in 2014 when it became a NATO-US puppet. There was no sovereignty left for Russia to violate.
Russia had a humanitarian duty to intervene to stop the attack on the Donbass.
Ukraine never had nukes.