I wonder if words would have worked with Hitler? We should have debated the concept of the Holocaust with him. Maybe we could have convinced him to see the error of his ways
Or maybe we just fucking kill the fascists.
Violence isn’t the ideal solution, but sometimes it becomes the only one.
Kirk wouldn’t have been killed if he were rightfully imprisoned for his participation in the Beer Hall Putsch.
This is what he deserves in a country devoid of justice, ruled by criminals.
You’re right about Hitler, but Kirk wasn’t Hitler in this analogy.
The world is probably a better place without him, but as far as I understand it all he did was say a bunch of stupid stuff.
Trump would not have been elected in 2024 without him. Trump himself said so.
He didn’t just “say a bunch of stupid stuff.” He’s indoctrinated countless young people into a hateful, violent ideology.
Ok, but that’s still in the realm of freedom of speech. I’m not saying it’s ok that Trump got elected, and I’m my saying I’m ok with the situation we’re in now. I’m just saying that stupid people saying stupid things is not the part of this that should be changed through violence.
Freedom of speech is the freedom from (unreasonable) government regulations on speech.
Not even the same discussion.
The reason we need freedom of speech from the government is because the government has a monopoly on violence. The root of it is whether or not violence is an acceptable response to speech.
When people say “freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences”, they’re not typically referring to murder as one of the consequences. You can see why that would be a slippery slope if they were.
When does “saying stupid stuff” (that involves calling for violence from others) cross the line? When does inciting your base to trample the human rights of others cross the line?
I’m not claiming to be wise enough to know exactly where the line is. But the line exists, clearly.
Nothing of value was lost. Kirk was a massive pos.
It was a net gain for society.
Charlie Kirk was political the same way the Ku Klux Klan is political.
Yes, some dirty peasant dared to kill an important person. Despicable!
Eventually, Americans will understand the basic concept of social classes and why they’re harmful to society. Not today, though.
11 people murdered by the president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/10/us/trump-drug-boat-venezuela-strike.html
Charlie inciting fear against the trans community while painting them as dangerous, while simultaneously minimizing the danger of guns in general. Just before being shot. Without a doubt, he is directly responsible for some violence against trans people.
Honestly, I appreciate his comments more about how gun deaths are acceptable. At least it’s honest. Also, on this link, a bunch of other racist, sexist shit that’s, again, honest to how he felt.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
I seem to recall a President who decided that the only way to deal with an inconvenient, political loudmouth was to kill him with a drone. And then kill the guy’s teenage son with another drone.
Sorry Obama, hard disagree.
