• meco03211@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I’d also wonder if such a young person has a fully fleshed out position. It’s easy to fall victim to the endless stream of thought terminating clichés the right employs. It’s also easy to happen upon a situation that seriously calls to question some position previously solidified by those thought terminating clichés. There’s reports he lived with a transgender partner. If you’ve bought into a lot of the hate against transgender people but then suddenly meet one that’s kinda hot and into you, I can see that throwing your whole world into a tailspin.

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      6 hours ago

      I mean, fleshed out enough to do what they did, I’m at least from their own perspective.

      And then people pushing back on this being a groyper are ignoring the preponderance of (current) evidence.

      The only that suggested this was a left-winger was a completely unhinged 48 hours of initial media coverage where they simply decided it was a left winger to begin with. That’s not evidence.

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        4 hours ago

        I mean, fleshed out enough to do what they did, I’m at least from their own perspective.

        That’s not necessarily “fleshed out” in my opinion. That’s just conviction. I’d consider fleshed out to be something you’ve thoroughly explored. If you’re vehemently anti-trans yet have never met one then suddenly change course after meeting one, that wasn’t fleshed out. Now that whole example may or may not be true in this case. I certainly haven’t seen anywhere near enough info to confirm or deny. Just kinda a hypothetical using some of the reporting happening.

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          That’s not necessarily “fleshed out” in my opinion.

          Well sure but its not really your belief that matters. All that matters is that they believe they were justified in doing what they did. I mean they went ahead and did it. Its self evident, is it not?

          And I would hope for all of our sake, yours and mine included, that we’ve fleshed out our believes more sufficiently and more completely to not blame marginalized groups and individuals for the failures of a system. But then we’re not the one coming to the conclusion the shooter made either, are we?