I agree 100% about the artists part, but we have 2 huge problems:
Storage
Allowed content
The storage is obvious, artists won’t be allowed to upload their drawings in good quality (even worse those who make animations or movies).
I know other social networks also kill their creations by compression, but at least they are easier to find by normal people and reddit-style users dislike clicking anything that takes them out of the website/app (like linking to Newgrounds or something).
Now allowed content… Lemmy has this thing about hating gooner content or booba for some reason (and using the NSFW filter is a HUGE nono, they just HAVE to be able to see blood and violence at work and in the presence of kids), and artists not only draw apples or mountains and happy little trees, sometimes even their own avatar is drawn smoking hot (either porn or not), so they get brigaded… HARD.
Also the current instances exists on places where… well… it’s basically a crime to host NSFW/sexy content, I think with how the Lemmy federation works they won’t be able to federate with instances that host that content.
These problems will basically only allow people who draw cute/safe stuff, and those already have a place on the normal social networks.
Hell, I’m subbed to a couple of porn comms and they haven’t shown up on my feed for a looooooong time (neither have the sexy anime-style comms).
So basically… we have nothing to offer the artistic community, and they are even more sensible to political problems (the fucking main Lemmy devs are a fucking problem… and why I ended up moving to piefed [for now]), so knowing the storage problem will be there, they will most likely be brigaded by those who dislike their content/ideologies (NSFW or not) and will get hardly any exposure… it just doesn’t work for them.
Lemmy and Piefed instances do not have set limits for storage. Someone can upload their digital work in the webp image format to compress their image down to kbs. I don’t think any admin is going to be upset towards og artists. Also there could be a cooperative where artists can donate a portion of their income from donations and commissions to help fund their preferred instance’s storage costs. This concept already works with Cosocial. it might be necessary for Peertube, Loops and Pixelfed instances to function as cooperatives for creative folks to be viable. The fediverse instances do not have the advantage yet to bulk buy storage space like companies do. The devs are working on embedding third-party services more to work more seamlessly within the frontends and apps. Tesseract automatically compresses images to webp by default.
Videos can be posted from Peertube. The thumbnails can be used creatively there for the image in the lemmy/piefed feeds.
I don’t think any admin is going to be upset towards og artists
Not admins (except the three problematic instances), users that already complained (very close to the reddit exodus) about gooner art appearing too much in their feed.
For the rest, basically you are telling them to host their own instance and pay for their own storage (which most already do), most don’t have the technical knowledge or time to do that, so basically zero incentive to leave where they already are.
The part about the collective might work, but someone would have to get enough of them on board, host where they won’t be censored and have a team efficient enough to prevent them getting brigaded (or actually react when it happens).
Also everyone would have to be on board on which software was going to be used between Piefed, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Loops and/or Peertube, specially since not all of them use images only and not everyone does animations.
Then it’s just a matter of hopping they get enough exposition so they don’t feel like leaving because the reach is not enough to justify giving a part of the comissions to the hosting.
I agree 100% about the artists part, but we have 2 huge problems:
The storage is obvious, artists won’t be allowed to upload their drawings in good quality (even worse those who make animations or movies).
I know other social networks also kill their creations by compression, but at least they are easier to find by normal people and reddit-style users dislike clicking anything that takes them out of the website/app (like linking to Newgrounds or something).
Now allowed content… Lemmy has this thing about hating gooner content or booba for some reason (and using the NSFW filter is a HUGE nono, they just HAVE to be able to see blood and violence at work and in the presence of kids), and artists not only draw apples or mountains and happy little trees, sometimes even their own avatar is drawn smoking hot (either porn or not), so they get brigaded… HARD.
Also the current instances exists on places where… well… it’s basically a crime to host NSFW/sexy content, I think with how the Lemmy federation works they won’t be able to federate with instances that host that content.
These problems will basically only allow people who draw cute/safe stuff, and those already have a place on the normal social networks.
Hell, I’m subbed to a couple of porn comms and they haven’t shown up on my feed for a looooooong time (neither have the sexy anime-style comms).
So basically… we have nothing to offer the artistic community, and they are even more sensible to political problems (the fucking main Lemmy devs are a fucking problem… and why I ended up moving to piefed [for now]), so knowing the storage problem will be there, they will most likely be brigaded by those who dislike their content/ideologies (NSFW or not) and will get hardly any exposure… it just doesn’t work for them.
Lemmy and Piefed instances do not have set limits for storage. Someone can upload their digital work in the webp image format to compress their image down to kbs. I don’t think any admin is going to be upset towards og artists. Also there could be a cooperative where artists can donate a portion of their income from donations and commissions to help fund their preferred instance’s storage costs. This concept already works with Cosocial. it might be necessary for Peertube, Loops and Pixelfed instances to function as cooperatives for creative folks to be viable. The fediverse instances do not have the advantage yet to bulk buy storage space like companies do. The devs are working on embedding third-party services more to work more seamlessly within the frontends and apps. Tesseract automatically compresses images to webp by default.
Videos can be posted from Peertube. The thumbnails can be used creatively there for the image in the lemmy/piefed feeds.
Not admins (except the three problematic instances), users that already complained (very close to the reddit exodus) about gooner art appearing too much in their feed.
For the rest, basically you are telling them to host their own instance and pay for their own storage (which most already do), most don’t have the technical knowledge or time to do that, so basically zero incentive to leave where they already are.
The part about the collective might work, but someone would have to get enough of them on board, host where they won’t be censored and have a team efficient enough to prevent them getting brigaded (or actually react when it happens).
Also everyone would have to be on board on which software was going to be used between Piefed, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Loops and/or Peertube, specially since not all of them use images only and not everyone does animations.
Then it’s just a matter of hopping they get enough exposition so they don’t feel like leaving because the reach is not enough to justify giving a part of the comissions to the hosting.