I posted [link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYP8-oxq8ig&t=1s) to 1960 presidential debate on Digg with the title: “1960 presidential debate. No interruptions, no insulting, no screaming, just two gentelmen having civilized discussion.”. It got some likes but some comments are wild.
It almost looks like there are certain keywords that when their ears and brains detect, there is some trigger which causes brain areas responsible for logic and rationality to shut down.
And another thought I just had that i find interesting , is that it looks like there is plenty of white Americans, that shit on their own country because of slavery, but there is very small number of Germans that do the same because of WW2. Leftist Germans don’t hate their own country because of war attrocities, they focus their energy on stuff like LGBT, immigrant rights etc. I’m guessing it has to do with the fact that in war mainly white people were killed. Concetnration camps killed 3 million Jews and 3 million Poles. As bad as it sounds that leads to conclusion that nowadays white person has less “value” for these people, and what’s craziest it looks like that agenda is pushed by whites themselves as well.
In such moments I’m glad I was born in Poland and that Poland had nothing to do with slavery and was on the good side in world wars. We don’t have any internal guilt feelings sitting on shoulders that I’m sure is the case for some Americans or western Europeans.
You called out white Americans specifically and now you want to make it about everywhere else? Okay then, smartarse, find me a place in the world in the 1800s that was a bastion of equal representation. I contend any “civility” in politics anywhere in the world at that time was highly partisan and relied entirely on the brutal suppression of dissenting voices. Good luck arguing against that.
I called out white Americans in a different context if you read the post again. This was second part of post when I talk about something else that I thought about, comparing white Americans and Germans shitting on their own caountry. It wasn’t the context of conducting the political debate. In this context in my original post there are only Nixon, Kennedy and word “gentlemen” in general brought up. It’s you who expanded context by not specifying society or country when you mentioned 1800s in later comment, I responded adequately.
It’s worth mentioning that there is no such thing as bastion of equal representation. Inequalities are everywhere, it’s just a matter of size.
I agree that 1800s bad for many people, but 200s were bad in a different way for other people in a different place, although maybe the scale was smaller. Should we make make philosphers like Socrates or Aristiotle a taboo topic because rich Greeks had African slaves? Same thing with Ancient Rome. You can taboo everything by having that way of thinking. 1800s are not special in this regard.
Also, from the beginning I only wanted to discuss the WAY those two people speak with each other, the WAY the debate, despite thir skin color or nationality. I wouldn’t care if they were black, yellow or whatever. It’s just a good example of the WAY they speak and I specifically mentioned that in the title. But for some reason you and users from the photo that were commenting keep drifting to other things and opening up completely new topics.