• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Admit that I’ve got what wrong? I’ve only ever stated established facts. Many dictatorships are collapsed democracies. Russians also chose to abandon their democracy, having voted too many times for Putin.

    Sure, the current situation is particularly unfair on the (very many) Gazans who were too young to vote 19 years ago. I’m sure we can agree on that.

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      2 days ago

      I’ve only ever stated established facts. North Korea does not hold elections. China does not hold elections outside its ruling Communist Party.

      Although, China is a one-party state so you at least got that part right. On the other hand

      totalitarian countries (China holds proper-ish elections[…])

      China is not a totalitarian country (yet at least), so that is wrong…

      Anyway, the current situation is particularly unfair to all Gazans who aren’t combatants, so that we can agree on. I think it is clear to everyone else that Hamas is not the legal government in Gaza, and that is obviously nothing I can force you to change your mind about, but I, with friendliness, suggest you think about why you differ in reasoning between Hamas and other authoritarian regimes.

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        2 days ago

        This seems to be your personal definition of “totalitarian”. From what I understand of the consensus of actual political scientists, North Korea has been totalitarian for decades and Russia and China both now pass the bar too (since the Ukraine invasion and Xi’s tech authoritarian ramp-up, respectively).

        with friendliness, suggest you think about

        Difficult to finish a sentence with condescension level at this pitch.

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          2 days ago

          I assure you it is not. North Korea is definitely totalitarian but neither Russia nor China is. They’re on their way to be, but aren’t. Especially Russia was a very long way from being totalitarian until, as you said, the invasion of Ukraine.

          I’m sorry, it was not meant to be condescending. I just wanted to point out that you held two different standards between different authoritarian regimes and that you might want to figure out why to come to a better conclusion, my bad.

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            2 days ago

            I assure you

            Who cares what you assure me? We’re talking about definitions. Yours are not those of the people who study these things closely.

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              2 days ago

              Well fuck you mate. My field of study is political science and I can tell that yours isn’t.