There is discussion but the userbase’s interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.
I’ve recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I’m shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.
Honestly, that’s not accidental. Reddit’s a hot mess right now…
Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds… MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.
Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn’t ever visited that sub… stuff that I han’t even heard of showed up.
NGL, I fell right into it. It’s slick, that’s for sure.
Eventually the rage-bait posts got me… I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I’d posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.
The AI they’re using isn’t as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.
It’s getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.
Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list.
This is actually not quite correct. It may be a side effect but originally that sub was created because moderation sucked in a different global news sub. If I remember correctly that sub started getting flooded with lewd anime so the new sub was created for global news but named ironically in the tradition of r\marijuanaenthusiasts and r\trees
What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there’s less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.
Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
INFORMAL
noun
1.
pornography.
“hardcore porn”
2.
television programs, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a nonsexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience.
“a thrilling throwback to the golden age of disaster movies—weather porn of the highest order”
adjective
pornographic.
“a porn video”
And I stand corrected on my earlier
According to google /r/jailbait was, by definitin, porn
I do think most people thin of porn d overt sexual content though.
It was definitely easily misread though, I agree with that. Even though you didn’t have to go to /r/all.
He’s referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.
I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn’t illegal.
It wasnt illegal if people only posted girls over 18 but thats not the case. There were a ton of under 18s being posted. When it was banned the sub pivoted to some like “fashion” sub and continued posting under 18s and 18s for plausible deniability.
The issue is when the entire sub is filled with people who look young enough to be under 18 its very hard for admins to tell when they’re actually under 18. After the ban the fashion sub posted people clearly under 18 and used the excuse that its fine because they’re clothed and they’re just reviewing the fashion.
I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.
Ok so I don’t want to go to bat too much for an opinion I was mostly speculating on (since that person never clarified), but the atheist community on reddit was a lot worse than just smug pricks back then. Serious sexism, racism, defense of gay marriage but tons of homophobia, etc. This is what I assume the comment OP was talking about.
There is discussion but the userbase’s interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.
I’ve recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I’m shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.
Honestly, that’s not accidental. Reddit’s a hot mess right now…
Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds… MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.
Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn’t ever visited that sub… stuff that I han’t even heard of showed up.
NGL, I fell right into it. It’s slick, that’s for sure.
Eventually the rage-bait posts got me… I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I’d posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.
The AI they’re using isn’t as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.
It’s getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.
Oooooffffff. Fun times ahead.
This is actually not quite correct. It may be a side effect but originally that sub was created because moderation sucked in a different global news sub. If I remember correctly that sub started getting flooded with lewd anime so the new sub was created for global news but named ironically in the tradition of r\marijuanaenthusiasts and r\trees
Atheists are way less likely to create child porn than a catholic priest.
Don’t make me pull out citations and evidence based data in this thread. I’ll do it.
you can pull out all the citations you want but it wont be relevant. Early reddit was rife with cp.
And there’s no reason to assume modern reddit now is somehow less atheistic than early reddit.
I dont care for this point, I never intended to claim that it has less atheists now. I only wanted to describe how reddit started.
What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there’s less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.
Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.
yeah i never made that point. I was vaguely mentioning the popular topics on the site at the time.
Okay then, you put ‘atheists’ alongside racists and child pornography which is what would get people’s backs up.
No, I can put atheist alongside racist and cp because the front page was full of atheist posts > Racist posts > CP. No this doesn’t mean all atheists.
They never made this point.
Your inability to read is showing.
They lumped in atheists with racists and child porn. It was easily misread as at least implying atheists are equivalent morally or as bad.
This is why people are saying you’re implying.
Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more INFORMAL noun 1. pornography. “hardcore porn” 2. television programs, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a nonsexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience. “a thrilling throwback to the golden age of disaster movies—weather porn of the highest order” adjective pornographic. “a porn video”
And I stand corrected on my earlier
According to google /r/jailbait was, by definitin, porn
I do think most people thin of porn d overt sexual content though.
It was definitely easily misread though, I agree with that. Even though you didn’t have to go to /r/all.
He’s referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.
I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn’t illegal.
It wasnt illegal if people only posted girls over 18 but thats not the case. There were a ton of under 18s being posted. When it was banned the sub pivoted to some like “fashion” sub and continued posting under 18s and 18s for plausible deniability.
I stand corrected then.
I thought its whole loophole thing was that it was legal which is why something that disgusting wasn’t removed.
I don’t know how they didn’t remove something that was actually illegal from the site earlier. Double gross. Evil. Ew.
I doubly don’t understand why something that was illegal wasn’t removed WAY earlier.
The issue is when the entire sub is filled with people who look young enough to be under 18 its very hard for admins to tell when they’re actually under 18. After the ban the fashion sub posted people clearly under 18 and used the excuse that its fine because they’re clothed and they’re just reviewing the fashion.
It wasn’t. But it was pretty bad PR for the site.
This is why people as misreading you.
“It wan’t” is not super clear. If you said “it wasn’t popular” people would understand you better.
I’m confused by what you’re even getting at here.
Pretty sure I replied to the wrong comment ahhaha
What are you on about? There’s tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don’t spread child porn.
I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.
Even “new atheism” is really not fairly put alongside child porn or racism.
Not the movement, the people on reddit. I think they were comparing their behavior.
That still seems outrageous to compare a smug new atheist to someone who posts child porn
Ok so I don’t want to go to bat too much for an opinion I was mostly speculating on (since that person never clarified), but the atheist community on reddit was a lot worse than just smug pricks back then. Serious sexism, racism, defense of gay marriage but tons of homophobia, etc. This is what I assume the comment OP was talking about.
Reddit removed /r/atheists from :r/all years ago so it’s not as visible now.
Arguably a big part of the enshittification imo.
Yeah, it used to be more visible. I know.