Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @[email protected] (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

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    I dunno I’ve watched enough of the maga people talk to be pretty confident they just hate the world.

    The “this guy will shake things up” argument would make sense if he hadn’t already been our single most corrupt president in a generation (until 47)

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      You seem to be talking about influencers and whatnot. I’m talking about your average Joe in the middle that doesn’t really follow politics but was mad at things getting more expensive over Biden’s term. They aren’t large in numbers, but they tend to determine elections.

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        Ah, yes, there are also the terminally dumb and uneducated. But those people are just weaponized votes. They don’t appear to have their own thoughts or agency, just mindless drones following whatever their one podcast or one cable network or their one YouTube guy tells them to do.

        But no, there’s also plenty of videos of random magas in various formats, and a driving factor for those people appears to be hate (with a healthy mix of not understanding the concept of cause and effect)

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          I’m talking about your average Joe in the middle that doesn’t really follow politics but was mad at things getting more expensive over Biden’s term.

          Ah, yes, there are also the terminally dumb and uneducated.

          This is the response to people being unhappy prices sharply increased under Biden? People are hardly ‘dumb and uneducated’ for not liking price increases…


          A statement that will always remain relevant: “It’s the economy, stupid.”

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            No, they arent dumb for not liking price increases. It’s the lack of understanding of cause and effect that makes them dumb, not liking or disliking an effect.

            The reason that saying is relevant is because people are stupid. The president has to care about the economy but the reverse is almost never true

            Of course as with many situations, trump is the exception to the rule: because congress isn’t doing its job and is allowing trump to randomly increase costs by 100% then 50% then 200% then 100% over the course of a single summer, he has had an outsized impact on the economy in a way that no other president has had for generations. And he managed to do it twice, the first time bungling covid so badly that he contributed heavily to the massive inflation we’ve experienced since he was last in office.

            The economy grows on stability, not random acts of chaos, violence, and retribution.