I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.

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    Lemmy is developed by communists, and Reddit banned a bunch of leftist subreddits like r/chapotraphouse, r/GenZedong, and r/TheDeprogram. As a consequence, a bunch of communists are on Lemmy by ratio compared to Reddit, though Lemmy.world is defederated and blocks 2/3rds of the major communist instances, so you can’t actually see them. They usually are on Lemmygrad.ml or Hexbear.net if you want to see the communist side of Lemmy.

    Lemmy.ml is the dev’s testing instance, so that’s why a lot of communists are here but also why it’s not defederated by Lemmy.world.

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        Here’s Lemmy.world explaining why. Essentially, for having stances common to communists (opposing western hegemony is a big one they took issue with). Lemmy.world is run by your standard DNC-style liberals, they generally oppose Marxism and communism, and uphold the DNC as good. Some are also zionists.

        Now, that’s my perspective as a communist. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, my perspective is as someone who reads theory, does light org work, etc. I’m not a fan of the DNC, I support socialist states, etc. Others may give a different perspective, but it’s also worth noting that there are entire drama communities dedicated to taking comments out of context, witch-hunting communists, etc and this is made even worse by defederation because it creates this “boogeyman” that .world can’t actually see.

        Hope that helps, honestly you can just scroll grad and hexbear yourself for a bit without making an account to see what’s up.

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          Reading that thread, it’s clearly not for “having stances”. Very, very clearly it’s about their intention to push anti-liberal propaganda and dismantle liberalism across the fediverse.

          Yours is a clearly disingenuous reading, and I hope people here aren’t just taking you at your word.

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            It’s absolutely for having stances deemed unacceptable by the admin team. For the admin team, only liberal propaganda is allowable. Any left-critique of liberalism is deemed “extreme,” and was pre-emptively silenced. The admins are trying to have their cake and eat it too, by saying that it’s unacceptable to push viewpoints systemically while cutting out anyone that goes against their own viewpoints.

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              If you’re really gonna say deliberately connecting to an instance with the stated goal of dismantling and inserting a communist ideology via a propaganda war is tantamount to “just having a stance” then it should be clear to everyone what a bad actor you are.

              Imagine if I publicaly stated that the goal of my instance was to build a userbase, infiltrate .ml, dismantle communist ideology, and spread liberal propaganda. Are you really gonna pretend you’d leap to my defense when Dessalines obviously banned/defederated me?

              Hell, he loves to abuse rule 2 to silence “Liberals” constantly. Yet you don’t seem to have anything to say about that…

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          Thank you for the reasonable reply that didn’t attack my character for asking. Apparently, that’s too much to ask of some people.

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            No worries! A lot of people get emotionally invested in drama, which is why tons of the definitions you’ve been given for “tankie” are people that don’t actually exist. It’s like saying “communist but boogieman.” This creates the response from communists defending ourselves from slander, which is why this became a mess. Kinda like if you went into a random room and asked people what “woke” meant.

            Lemmy has few conservatives (outside of instances like sh.itjust.works), so the biggest ideological conflict is communist vs liberal, with anarchists kinda doing their own thing and aligning more or less with the former or the latter.

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        From what I’ve seen, it appears a very vocal minority of .world users cannot tolerate any criticism or viewpoints opposing capitalism/liberialism or NATO.

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          Shit, my comment got deleted, do you remember what it said? I can’t remember. Im sure it was probably something irritating for a communist…

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              Dont forget the past, lest youre doomed to repeat it.

              In 1950s everyone learned the horrors of a communist system, and now 70ish years later, those with 1st hand experience are mostly dead.

              I mean, yall confuse me. In your opinion, should we not have fought communism in the 50s?

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                In the 1950s, McCarthyite propagandists were spinning tall-tales and mythmaking about the world’s most effective system at rapidly improving living conditions and scientific development. 70ish years later, with the soviet archives (somewhat) opened up, we have much better evidence at just how awful the lies of the US Empire were, which was busy exporting genocide and terrorism worldwide in order to plunder and dominate the world.

                There’s no confusion here, the US Empire was the evil side in the Cold War, and evil won out. From genocide against Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, coups in Chile against democratically elected presidents in favor of dictators like Pinochet, brutal trade embargoes against countries like Cuba that dared to implement a more human-focused system, the US Empire was and still remains the most brutal and evil empire in history. Thankfully, imperialism is crumbling and this evil country is nearing its end. Hopefully after it falls, a socialist country can take its place.