• YoFrodo@lemmy.world
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    Even if, as he claims, he didnt know it was a nazi symbol then that means hes a moron. Being simply unaware is excusable, not everyone can know everything, but getting it as a tattoo without knowing?! That means he either was/is a nazi or is/was a massive moron. Either option disqualifies him in my eyes.

    Now I dont live in Maine so it doesnt matter politically. But if I did I wouldnt be voting for him

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      Marines getting dumb ass tattoos while drunk in a foreign country is a story as old as time. He definitely used to be a moron, getting a tattoo under those circumstances was obviously a terrible decision.

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        It really doesnt matter how or why he got it unless it was against his will. Id never vote for a politician that has or had a nazi tattoo. Its just a hard stop.

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      What the fuck? Do you know every hate symbol and slur in the world? Why would you expect your average person to casually know this sort of thing? Not knowing obscure Nazi symbols doesn’t make one a “moron;” I for one have much better things to do than learning how fascism group#3011 decided to tell everyone they hate Jews.

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        In his defense, I also didn’t know what a totenkopf was before all this drama.

        However, not in his defense, I don’t have one fucking tattooed on my body.

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          In his defense, I also didn’t know what a totenkopf was before all this drama.

          Exactly that’s my point.

          However, not in his defense, I don’t have one fucking tattooed on my body.

          K? I’m not sure what your point here is.

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        If you get a tattoo and dont know what it is then you are a moron. If that tattoo turns out to be a nazi symbol then you are a giant moron. Both of these disqualify you, in my mind, from being an elected leader in any sense.

        Its not a hard concept to grasp here. Leaders should not be morons and the should absolutely not be nazis

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          If you get a tattoo and dont know what it is then you are a moron.

          Uh… it’s a skull and crossbones? Nazis didn’t invwnt those.

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              Sure, but if you saw it not knowing it’s not just a skull and crossbones, you’ll only think “oh, skull and crossbones.” No amount of knowledge will protect you from this kind of false positive, because you can’t know what you don’t know.

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                Except that specific symbol is one I do know, so maybe you and others can move past it. I could not. Platner shouldve known, his tattoo artist probably knew, and others did notice hence why we are even talking about it now.

                Ignorance does not excuse it.

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      I will say this.

      A LOT of people in the military just get their “unit tattoo” or whatever without any thought. In large part because the people who tend to be the hardest on that are the psychopaths who get off on murder and might think it is a funny joke to rape you in your sleep (as a joke). Captain Roman Salute isn’t wrong about that: There are a LOT of black guys and hispanic dudes who end up with SS skulls and lightning bolts all over their body by the time they get out.

      And most of the people who have those, upon being told “… is that a god damned SS skull?” IMMEDIATELY have a panic attack and go get it removed or covered up.

      Which is where Skorzeny Of The Blackwater is, at best, a complete and total moron. In the 15 years after getting it, not a single person who saw it ever said “da fuq?”. And he, as a self proclaimed military history buff, never drew any connections with some of “the most elite troops of World War 2”. And then, when he explained why people have “punisher skulls” in a thread about SS soldiers with totenkopfs, he STILL never drew the connection to the thing that is on his body staring at him every time he showers and kept it for the next 5 years.

      Pretty much all inclusive ors:

      • He is a complete and utter moron and is not fit for office
      • He is a neonazi who just mostly stuck to dog whistles rather than replying to Always Sunny meme posts with “sieg heil! THE FOURTH REICH SHALL LIVE!!!”
      • Every sexual partner and person he hung out with at the beach or pool or while he was stripped to his underpants in a bar has no issue with nazi imagery: Which speaks poorly of him
      • He thinks The American People are dumb enough to believe his blatant lies… okay, that might actually be a statement in favor of his judgement but… yeah

      But hey. The Left needed their own “it is not a nazi salute. Elon was just giving a roman salute” moment. And you can never have too many Fettermans running cover for the centrists who don’t actually want to support a progressive policy.