• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Chinese industry is some of the most advanced on the planet. I use US as an example, because industrial output is lower. Your list is measured in terms of dollars, not actual goods and output.

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        Chinese industry is some of the most advanced on the planet.

        Yes next to america and europe. Your original claim i’m reply to is that “NATO can’t field an actual war against Russia”.

        If you want we can compare NATO and russia/china combined and see who has the strongest army and biggest war capabilities.

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          No, not “next to,” at this point China has surpassed the US and Europe in manufacturing in all but a few specialized fields.

          Secondly, saying that NATO can’t field war against Russia doesn’t mean that NATO can’t try, or that Russia would single-handedly destroy all of NATO. Russia would win like Vietnam won against the US, by NATO failing to accomplish their goals without nuclear war.

          If it was China and Russia against NATO, it would similarly be devastating for all involved, but NATO wouldn’t succeed in crushing Russia and China without nuclear war.

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            No, not “next to,” at this point China has surpassed the US and Europe in manufacturing in all but a few specialized fields.

            few specialized fields like war tech and industry which is what we are talking about.

            Secondly, saying that NATO can’t field war against Russia doesn’t mean that NATO can’t try, or that Russia would single-handedly destroy all of NATO. Russia would win like Vietnam won against the US, by NATO failing to accomplish their goals without nuclear war.

            Vietnam war was 60 years ago and nukes are older than that. War has evolved, USA wouldn’t need a single nuke to destroy russia they are already doing it with propaganda and the leverage they have on markets.