• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    There are only videos of people asking for badge numbers without getting a response.

    Are these suspects or protestors? Because the videos I’ve seen are protestors. Police must reveal their identity to suspects due to the fourth amendment, but not to the general public.

    My point is suspects have a right to know who their accusers are. Whether they share that with others (and they should) is up to them. Having the public know their identities just opens them up to vigilante justice, having suspect know their identities keeps them accountable to the rule of law.

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      5 hours ago

      Both. But if you’re “arresting” a protester haven’t they become a defacto suspect? Or are they arresting protesters for other reasons?

      All other law enforcment in america is maskless. Why would ICE need special protections from vigilate justice?

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        4 hours ago

        But if you’re “arresting” a protester haven’t they become a defacto suspect?

        Yes, if you’re detained or arrested, you have the right to know the name and badge number of the person detaining or arresting you.

        The videos I’ve seen aren’t that, they’re merely protesters asking on behalf of someone else. If there is a video where it’s clear that someone being detained or arrested by police isn’t given that information, then I’d be very interested because that would be a pretty clear-cut 4th amendment violation.

        All other law enforcment in america is maskless

        SWAT wears masks.

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          27 minutes ago

          Sure but we’d need an unedited clip from the streets to the jail cell to prove they weren’t provided that information. Plus how long after the arrest do they have?

          Seizing people off the street without an arrest warrant or probable cause is already a clear-cut 4th amendment violation. What do you do with that?