• ILoveUnions@lemmy.world
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    You don’t get a public defender for civil lawsuits, which are the majority of those kinds of lawsuits. So no, public defenders aren’t good enough for everyone, because they don’t exist for civil lawsuits.

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      5 hours ago

      Yep that is an accurate description of the way the broken system currently works. Thanks!

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        Yeah. That’s the proper response to your statement being wrong. Lol. . .

        Yes, the system has issues–the issue being that the loser in the suit doesn’t take the burden of reasonable attorney costs for both parties. That alone would fix most of it. Government doesn’t need to give anyone a right to a civil lawyer.

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          “We should change the way things work.” “Thats not how things work” great argument buddy, glad we could hash this out.

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            4 hours ago

            I mean you stayed.

            If the public defenders are good enough for everyone else

            as a present which is not the case, since they’re not in civil lawsuits

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              Yes, but if we changed the rules we could, for example, add funding to the office of the Public Defenders and they could hire a special lawyer for civil cases against public servants available to anyone who doesn’t wish to pay for their own laywers.

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                Why? That accomplishes only increased government costs when the same accessibility could be brought about by allowing the loser of the case to take on reasonable lawyer fees of both people.

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                  oh no the government might spend more money!? i guess we can’t do that then!! nevermind that the government is already spending this money and all im suggesting is redirecting that funding to a different related department to make public officials actually invested in maintaining a historically neglected program that serves mostly the poor.

                  you’re right, instead we should discourage people from filing civil suits entirely by making sure only people who can afford to pay the defendants’ lawyers fees will file them. that is a much better solution.