• MourningDove@lemmy.zip
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    8 hours ago

    The fact of the matter is in an election where [ANYONE] vs FASCIST is the choices…

    YOU FUCKING VOTE FOR ANYONE.

    I honestly don’t believe this is still a conversation!! My god you people are not just determined to repeat the mistakes of the past- you’re running headlong right towards it!

    So fucking embarrassing.

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      Of course there were many foolish voters out there but it’s not good enough for a candidate to be not Donald Trump. The reality is that many people will stay home when they see dirty corporate politicians running for office. And you can blame the people all you want, but that doesn’t change reality, and they’ll still stay home.

      I think what’s embarrassing is your approach. You saw 2016 and 2024 and you still haven’t learned from either of them. It turns out that people vote or don’t vote for a variety of reasons, and a simplistic approach like yours is a failed approach.

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      It’s hard to blame the voters in the light of recent events.

      Voters just handed the Democrats an insane mandate. Ignoring the voters and caving in to the fascists a week later sends a very clear message, “We don’t care about your vote.”

      Actions speak louder than words.

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      I’m gonna be devil’s advocate here for a moment. I followed Mamdani’s campaign closely and I think he nailed it on the spot. You had two politicians running whereas one lied that he’ll reduce prices and make America great again and the other… did nothing for the most part. From the eyes of the average voter Kamala promised nothing but the status quo, and they wanted change. That’s how Dem strongholds flipped red during this election and how a lot of them went back to blue for the mid term elections. If she told her donors to get stuffed and worked for the working class instead of exploiting the working class she would’ve won.

      What a mess we live in. Both options will fuck you over, only one of them will do it with lube.

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        It was a terrible campaign spoken to people who where/are hurting telling them they where actually in fact doing great.

        It was worse then doing nothing, saying it was mostly nothing is being kind. Once again they just assumed they would win and forgot that people looking for any help will swallow lies over the safer status quo choice. That is why when the big man gamble blew up in their face they vote blue again. The real issue is this is why the dems never have to change, they don’t even oppose the other side anymore, they just wait to have their turn.

        Watching this mess is just infuriating, seeing the endless exceptionalism and team based bullshit more so.

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      If you are in a nation that has only two choices and one is a FASCIST, you are in a fascist nation without real choice. You are once again embarrassing yourself to the rest of the world with this endless team based bullshit.

      IF THERE IS ONLY ONE “CORRECT” CHOICE THEN THERE IS NO CHOICE!

      This is what you all get when you turn your whole system into a fixed 2 headed hydra for years and years, but when you needed to stand up and change the system you all instead point fingers and blame instead of doing anything.

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          Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.

          Your nation is a joke and the rest of the world is done with your shit.

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            The rest of the world does the exact same shit. I don’t know why you types outside the US think you’re somehow immune to facism, bigotry, and economic exploitation. And i say this living outside the US

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            K. Byeeee! Blocking you now as you have no dog in this race and just seem to want to bitch at someone.

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              Perfect, just like your leaders, you would prefer living in a make believe world then live in reality.

              Clearly I have no “dog in this race” as if your shitstain of a nation is not in anyway involved with the world at all.

              Oh but wait you can’t see this and for some reason trying to make blocking someone some sort of slight.

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      Truly, the amount of people on this website who will bend over backwards to push third party/protest votes despite all evidence that that is insanely naive and the equivalent to shooting their own legs off is insane.

      Somehow, these people, after decades of it not working, think that the democrats losing will magically bring in progressive Valhalla, because they literally refuse to acknowledge that the very obvious solution, that is equivalent to eating your veggies and doing exercise, is that the democrats have to keep winning, and they have to keep voting in progressives through primaries, state and local politics.

      Its extremely obvious to anyone who understand the 2 party supporting winner takes all/first past the post system they have.

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        Oh cool. Another Liberal completely blind to the internal workings of their chosen party. What pearls of wisdom do you have for us?

        I voted for Kamala. This was the first time in 20 years that I’ve cast my vote Alone.

        I rally everyone I can. And every time I had a rhetorical lever to remind my friends and family about the importance of this casual action, Kamala herself would rush to a camera to undermine everything I tried to say.

        “End the genocide!” Well shit, she came out as a full throated Zionist. Her and her party did anything and everything to alienate everyone who views Palestinians as human.

        “One genocide is better than two” well fuck, she promised to be harder on the border than a fucking Nazi.

        “Trans survival rests on this” aaaand I watched her stand agast at any suggestion that she assert the reality that Trans Women are Women.

        “We should codify Roe V Wade” and… Crickets from her.

        People were hurting and the economy was in the toilet? All she could do was talk up Biden’s effort, sans evidence.

        Her backers, her sponsors, her consultants, her party infrastructure all made sure she refused to stand for anything. Ever.

        And I blame you Lemmings for allowing this shit for actual decades. You haven’t had a real Primary since 2008, and you call this Democracy?

        Have the day you voted for - A half step up from the Maga reality of today, but with more concessions for Maga than even your own base or agenda.