I came from Reddit where they definitely did matter. They don’t seem to hold any real weight here. Is this true for some or all instances? If they don’t matter, what are they for?

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    That is my argument. The Fediverse has to remove child-porn. Simply allowing to be filtered out by users isn’t good enough legally.

    Moreover, the system you call for would degrade communities as merely being twitter hashtags. That’s simply not how this is supposed to work.

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      If the cp is blacklisted then it will be removed from the listverse.

      “It would be bad” and “it isn’t how it’s supposed to work” are not substantial arguments.

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        No, it would still be present if someone wasn’t running any blocklists.

        “It would be bad” and “it isn’t how it’s supposed to work” are not substantial arguments.

        Yes, they are. The Fediverse is ultimately shaped by what the users want. If most of the users don’t want to lose the moderation tools because they find the outcome undesirable, then it won’t happen.

        You are in a very small minority.

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          It would be present on a guy’s computer and the network would block any communication with him. I think that’s as good as it gets.

          I think you’re dead wrong there. I think that everybody hates being told what they can say and who they can talk to.

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            It would be present on a guy’s computer and the network would block any communication with him. I think that’s as good as it gets.

            No, from the way you have described it - people who have enabled a blocklist that block his account would block any communication with him and thus blacklist his child porn. But anyone else who enters the website new without any blocks up would see it.

            I think you’re dead wrong there. I think that everybody hates being told what they can say and who they can talk to.

            This debate has come up many times before on the fediverse. Most people do not support the site being turned into 4chan.

            Many instances are run relatively stricter than other instances (such as beehaw and lemmy.blahaj) and specific communities require higher levels of moderation maintain a level of quality (particular subreddits not present on the fediverse function like this right now such as askscience, askhistorians etc).

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              That would be one of those mandatory blacklists to which I referred. And now I’m repeating myself.

              Just say, “bwaaaah! I don’t like it” and be done with it.

              Bye.

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                That would be one of those mandatory blacklists to which I referred. And now I’m repeating myself.

                So a “mandatory blacklist” sounds an awful lot like just a admin ban which is no different to what exists now.

                Just say, “bwaaaah! I don’t like it” and be done with it.

                I don’t. But for many other reasons to.