Because there’s no way X-Rays and specific types of medication could possibly hurt an unborn baby. All hospitals should just assume women are not able to be pregnant- or, essentially the same as men- and just treat them accordingly. I mean, it’s not like this shit isn’t taught in med school.
Imagine the outrage if hospitals stopped asking and just treated women with procedures and medications that are fatal to the unborn.
I don’t undressed why folks like you don’t understand that the argument in this meme was born from the misunderstanding that they have to ask this shit because of the reasons I and others here have mentioned.
You’re manufacturing outrage.
They have to ask because there could be serious problems if they proceed to treat her without knowing.
Why are folks like you intentionally side-stepping the reasonable and logical explanations for this and running right at the rage bait this is intended to be?
You’re just repeating the comment I replied to, and ignoring my reply. I’ll return the favour and ignore yours and repeat mine with more detail:
Did you or did you not see the first 6 panels? I’ll explain them: the doctor ignored critical and immediate problems.
At no point did the strip (or I) say that a doctor should never ask that question. The question he asked isn’t even specifically important. He could have said “are you pregnant” or “are your breasts sore” or “do you have a yeast infection” or “have you had a Pap smear recently”.
I literally can’t understand why you’re getting all preachy about something everybody agrees with and that has nothing to do with the comic. It’s really interesting…and strange.
Yeah…obviously it’s fine to ask that question when it’s relevant…you just don’t ask it first when you walk into a room with a gunshot victim. How is that too complicated? I don’t know what it’s called when you ignore the premise and make up your own premise so you can be angry about it…but that’s what you’re doing.
I didn’t attack shit. I calmly illustrated to all the ignorance here- why these questions are asked. You decided to get yourself worked up and play contrarian to it.
Factual Medical training is on my side here. Science supports my argument.
You have nothing.
I’m blocking you now- both as proof that I’m not here to argue dumb shit, and to not have to deal with the nonsense you have to say about it.
Yep. Even as a mere medic, we are supposed to at least consider any woman from 9 to 99 could be pregnant. And it fast and easy to ask, assuming a responsive patient. The overwhelming number of times it didn’t play into my treatment plan doesn’t matter. All it takes is just one time to not consider it and someone can be severely injured or dead because I didn’t consider it. If I had any doubt about pregnant or not, I asked the patient straight up.
I think explaining rationale for what you’re doing can be very helpful for patient comfort (not to mention compliance). Cis man here, but on the one hand I hear about enough women’s medical concerns getting dismissed to understand why that might be the assumption even when there’s good reason; and just from my own experience I like to understand what providers are thinking / working on with me.
I’m not a doctor. I was a medic for 15 years. Generally we, (at least I did), always try to explain things if there is time. But the time I have to explain what’s happening and why can be in very short supply as a medic. Sometimes it’s an “Oh shit! We gotta go! We gotta go NOW!” moment. Plus it’s just you and me in the back. So I was often busier than a one handed milk maid at milking time and had very little time for pleasantries.
And doctors face their own time crunch. If you have ever paid attention to the scheduling your appointment, they are in 15 minute blocks. And then they need to be on to the next patient while trying to find the time to chart their encounter with you. There are few of them and an endless supply of patients. And they need to keep that assembly line moving. If they spent as much time with their patients as THEY would like, imagine how long you would be sitting in that waiting room. You better bring drinks and a sandwich. Possibly a blanket.
And there ain’t any medical system that has enough doctors anywhere on this planet either to make things better for the doctors or the patients.
I think there is the misconception that patients have, that they expect doctors and other medical staff to be polite.
They are not there to be polite, they are there to fix a problem.
In regular situations it’s wildly impolite to ask a woman whether she’s pregnant, especially if she’s not. But a doctor needs that information, so it would be quite smart if people would just get over themselves and understand that they will be asked a few impolite questions when talking to medical staff.
Because there’s no way X-Rays and specific types of medication could possibly hurt an unborn baby. All hospitals should just assume women are not able to be pregnant- or, essentially the same as men- and just treat them accordingly. I mean, it’s not like this shit isn’t taught in med school.
Imagine the outrage if hospitals stopped asking and just treated women with procedures and medications that are fatal to the unborn.
Apology in advance for the nuanced take.
I don’t understand why folks like you are melting down.
The message is clearly that the doctor was ignoring immediate problems.
Why ignore that and get on your soap box? The comic didn’t imply that question should never be asked.
I don’t undressed why folks like you don’t understand that the argument in this meme was born from the misunderstanding that they have to ask this shit because of the reasons I and others here have mentioned.
You’re manufacturing outrage.
They have to ask because there could be serious problems if they proceed to treat her without knowing.
Why are folks like you intentionally side-stepping the reasonable and logical explanations for this and running right at the rage bait this is intended to be?
You’re just repeating the comment I replied to, and ignoring my reply. I’ll return the favour and ignore yours and repeat mine with more detail:
Did you or did you not see the first 6 panels? I’ll explain them: the doctor ignored critical and immediate problems.
At no point did the strip (or I) say that a doctor should never ask that question. The question he asked isn’t even specifically important. He could have said “are you pregnant” or “are your breasts sore” or “do you have a yeast infection” or “have you had a Pap smear recently”.
I literally can’t understand why you’re getting all preachy about something everybody agrees with and that has nothing to do with the comic. It’s really interesting…and strange.
Yeah…obviously it’s fine to ask that question when it’s relevant…you just don’t ask it first when you walk into a room with a gunshot victim. How is that too complicated? I don’t know what it’s called when you ignore the premise and make up your own premise so you can be angry about it…but that’s what you’re doing.
LMAO! It’s a comic strip.
I really wonder if you get this worked up over Garfield.
Sounds like you’re talking to a mirror. You’re the one who attacked it.
I got “worked up” over your reply because it was one of many replies changing the premise. I found it really interesting.
…but since you’ve abandoned your argument and switched soft gaslighting…I’ll just assume you didn’t understand it.
I didn’t attack shit. I calmly illustrated to all the ignorance here- why these questions are asked. You decided to get yourself worked up and play contrarian to it.
Factual Medical training is on my side here. Science supports my argument.
You have nothing.
I’m blocking you now- both as proof that I’m not here to argue dumb shit, and to not have to deal with the nonsense you have to say about it.
Yep. Even as a mere medic, we are supposed to at least consider any woman from 9 to 99 could be pregnant. And it fast and easy to ask, assuming a responsive patient. The overwhelming number of times it didn’t play into my treatment plan doesn’t matter. All it takes is just one time to not consider it and someone can be severely injured or dead because I didn’t consider it. If I had any doubt about pregnant or not, I asked the patient straight up.
I think explaining rationale for what you’re doing can be very helpful for patient comfort (not to mention compliance). Cis man here, but on the one hand I hear about enough women’s medical concerns getting dismissed to understand why that might be the assumption even when there’s good reason; and just from my own experience I like to understand what providers are thinking / working on with me.
I’m not a doctor. I was a medic for 15 years. Generally we, (at least I did), always try to explain things if there is time. But the time I have to explain what’s happening and why can be in very short supply as a medic. Sometimes it’s an “Oh shit! We gotta go! We gotta go NOW!” moment. Plus it’s just you and me in the back. So I was often busier than a one handed milk maid at milking time and had very little time for pleasantries.
And doctors face their own time crunch. If you have ever paid attention to the scheduling your appointment, they are in 15 minute blocks. And then they need to be on to the next patient while trying to find the time to chart their encounter with you. There are few of them and an endless supply of patients. And they need to keep that assembly line moving. If they spent as much time with their patients as THEY would like, imagine how long you would be sitting in that waiting room. You better bring drinks and a sandwich. Possibly a blanket.
And there ain’t any medical system that has enough doctors anywhere on this planet either to make things better for the doctors or the patients.
I think there is the misconception that patients have, that they expect doctors and other medical staff to be polite.
They are not there to be polite, they are there to fix a problem.
In regular situations it’s wildly impolite to ask a woman whether she’s pregnant, especially if she’s not. But a doctor needs that information, so it would be quite smart if people would just get over themselves and understand that they will be asked a few impolite questions when talking to medical staff.