• abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world
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    I’m honestly not even mad at that. What broke my immersion was how everyone was just flat out stunned that they would try it a third time, and with no defensive countermeasures whatsoever. They were caught off guard a third time

    And that third time they figured out how to bend space lasers to hit every planet at once and auto win

    Come on

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      21 hours ago

      They basically turned a planet into a death star and no one noticed or worse, they did and allowed it to happen.

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      They did have countermeasures for a Death Star that had to move within range of a planet. Star Killer base could strike from across the galaxy, which they weren’t prepared for. In fact their preparations for a Death Star attack resulted in most of the Republic fleet being destroyed… presumably because they gathered near the most likely target of a Death Star attack.

      The Death Star was the equivalent to a bomber carrying nukes, while Star Killer base was an ICBM. They had the defenses prepared to take down a bomber and got hit with an ICBM.

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        Star Killer base could strike from across the galaxy

        Star Wars has always played fast and loose with concepts like the laws of physics because they want space magic and the speed of light is for nerds but this is a particularly egregious one.

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        21 hours ago

        Funny thing, there wasn’t a Republic fleet, it was dismantled by Mon Mothma leaving the defense of the Republic to each of the planets.

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          Watch the movie. The Republic fleet is discussed. I recall C3PO saying the Republic fleet was destroyed.

          Maybe in Legends or some bullshit Disney+ TV shows they do what you’re talking about but in the actual movie, the Republic fleet is a thing that exists. A little unfair to criticize a movie for things that happen in other works.

          But that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it? Starting with the premise that a movie is bad and just making up things to prove the movie is bad while completely ignoring the movie itself.

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            Nope not in Legends, Mon Mothma wasn’t stupid in there.

            C3PO didn’t lie, the new republic is so useless they had the whole government in a single planet (the one that blew up), with a very small fleet (explained in later content to be reduced to a mere 10%) the reasons of course are explained in later content (afraid of repeating the mistakes of the past it better to barely have an army.

            People like you fail to see that the criticism is wide, it’s not just criticizing TFA, nor just the movies it’s the whole Disney Star Wars universe so many things that doesn’t make sense even in universe context.

            This is not an issue with women, not even with the directors like JJ Abrams; it’s an issue with useless climbers and boot lockers known as the star wars story group, they are the ones that should tell the directors that doesn’t make sense (like the dagger they use with the ruins of a death star)

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        Where did you see that they had countermeasures for even a death star? I’m looking it up and everything about the plot conveniently has everyone grouping up for a conventional attack, only for a gigantic super death star #3 (planetary variant) to just destroy everything.

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            12 hours ago

            Yes, and i saw the movie in theaters, but do not recall anything about these countermeasures. However, this was a long time ago, so i tried looking it up and it isn’t anywhere.

            I’m not going to watch the entire film just to try and assess your point for myself. I’m simply asking you to verify the thing that you’re claiming.

            I’ll add it in this way to make it more clear for you: i also watched the movie, and those things didn’t happen and were not mentioned.