• jsonjson@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 day ago

    How is wanting to avoid civil war “mainstream”? I mean sure, go and promote revolution from the comfort of your climate controlled box with modern amenities, detached from the horrors of war. The feds have tanks.

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      1 hour ago

      And the authorities had tanks in every country that had a successful people-power revolution too.

      If the military refuses to attack their own people, the tanks don’t matter.

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      7 hours ago

      As I already stated, peaceful solutions are easier to ignore or quash. You cannot negotiate with someone who can already get their way because they have nothing to gain. Negotiating to them means giving things up. If they refuse to negotiate, how are you going to bring them to the bargaining table?

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        3 hours ago

        A lot of this is reductionist and kind of generalizing. Really depends on what we’re talking about. There are ways to punish companies and hit them where it hurts, money, for instance. There are ways to lobby Congress. I’m just saying there’s a framework for being strategic about these things, and distilling it down to violent uprising is just lacking any nuance any of these types of conversations actually deserve.

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          60 minutes ago

          There are ways, but they’re even less effective and impractical than they were when companies weren’t all merged together and government wasn’t flooded with lobbyist dollars. Now industries are dominated by 2-3 major players who collude on prices through “algorithms” and the government is openly for sale to the top bidder. Money completely rules all, guess who has more money. That’s the only thing that talks “peacefully” now.