“It wasn’t because Biden voters shifted to Trump—but because so many of them stayed home.”

We must not repeat this same mistake again. Remember to always vote in every election and consider volunteering to knock on doors. It can make a difference. There are elections that are decided with just a small number of votes.

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    And WHY DID PEOPLE STAY HOME?

    I assure you that it is the party’s job to inspire people to vote and not the people’s job to inspire the party.

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      And it’s the people’s responsibility to vote.

      Both failed. I definitely blame the losers who didn’t show up as much as anyone else, though.

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        Because the Democrat Party pretty loudly told people who supported an end to Palestinian Apartheid that they did not want their support let alone their input. That they thought it was more important to court Liz Cheney and other Republicans and lock the Uncommitted delegates out of the convention despite exceeding their goals by 10 times to show that not listening on this issue had enough votes on the line to close the 2016 Clinton-Trump gap, let alone the 2020 Biden-Trump gap that it got over halfway to. The party said they wanted more support from lean Republican voters than the voters asking for a Democrat candidate who would speak out against genocide, and, even with record turnout in one of the main states for the issue, the there were more voters for Trump then either of his previous runs. But, yeah, blame the voters, they only turned out at the second highest rate since 1908 (with only the 2020 election being higher) and even Democrats had better turnout among the voter-eligible population that any of the second-place candidates since the 60s (and better turnout than more than half of presidents since then as well). If you’re putting the onus on the relatively small proportion of non-voters instead of either the moderate showing of the Democrats, or, you know, the people that actually came out to vote for Trump, then you’re not really focused on the issue.

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          I’m saying that everyone who didn’t vote Harris is at fault. And very, very few people had a good reason not to.

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        Voting should be mandatory. I read about how other countries handle their elections and I notice that people in Australia and Brazil have far great satisfaction with their system. Part of it is they have laws that make voting easy and secure. Since voting is mandatory they receiving time off to vote.

        Another advantage of making voting compulsory is it helps reduce conspiracy theories about people voting twice. Everyone knows that everyone gets one vote and they must use it.

        Also jury duty which is also compulsory is much more of a burden than voting so if they can force you to do jury duty we can have everyone vote.

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        You blame the poorest working class people and not the party that spent a billion on their campaign and still couldn’t convince anyone they were worth voting for?

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        Well keep in mind those “losers” might have a job that conflicts with their polling hours and have restrictive absentee ballots. It’s much easier for, say, retirees to vote than working poor.

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      It is literally the people’s job to keep an insane lunatic from running the country. Because we didn’t the loss of USAID is going to net 5 figure deaths including many kids. Tell the thousands of kids you whacked sorry.

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        The country has been run by insane lunatics who kill hundreds of thousands for decades. Read your history. Both parties are part of the death cult that is necrocapitalism and they oversee the death machine. Biden had toddlers in solitary confinement at the border. Obama killed so many people in drone strikes. Reagan oversaw arms smuggling and death squad deployments. Bush obviously did Iraq. Obama and Hilary did Libya. Biden oversaw Gaza going off.

        Voters didn’t end USAID. Voters stayed home partly because they realized that no matter who they voted for the government was going to kill hundreds of thousands of people in their name anyway. That kind of government doesn’t deserve a popular mandate.

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      Eh, really there should be a sort of virtuous cycle happening in that regard. But for sure it is the fault of the party here for choosing big money over its constituents

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        The party IS big money. The government IS big money. They didn’t chose. It’s structural. They literally cannot choose.

        A party that is of the masses, by the masses, and for the masses is called a communist party.

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      Partially because of relentless messaging on social media claiming that it was the only moral thing to do.

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        So someone outperformed the party on messaging? You mean the party spent its money incorrectly? You mean spending almost a billion dollars failed because of some “relentless messaging”?

        Sounds like the party failed, again.

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        I know, right? If only we got mad at the people voting for the lesser-evil instead of getting mad at those who don’t fall in line.

        But they clearly would rather have Trump than a progressive in office so that’s what we get.

        I don’t think democrats know what the meaning of insanity is.