• warm@kbin.earth
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    19 hours ago

    How have we all forgotten that games were made perfectly fine for decades without AI? Better games even.

    I’d rather give an award to a “worse” game that didnt use AI, than to a game that did.

    Devs can lie, but the truth always comes out eventually.

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      18 hours ago

      “the truth” being that a few generated placeholder textures were accidentally left in and promptly replaced? crazy

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        5 hours ago

        A willingness to play with Sauron’s One Ring is a signal that they’re not all that bothered about playing with Sauron’s One Ring.

        Did you know that most domestic abuse cases don’t actually start with some guy beating his future wife on their first date? That kind of behavior builds up over time.

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      19 hours ago

      Then most just won’t go on the Game Awards, and devs will go on using Cursor or whatever they feel comfortable with in their IDE setup.

      I’m all against AI slop, but you’re setting an unreasonably absolute standard. It’s like saying “I will never use any game that was developed in proximity to any closed source software.” That is possible, technically, but most people aren’t gonna do that. It’s basically impossible on a larger team. Give them some slack with the requirement; it’s okay to develop on Windows or on Steam, just open the game’s source.

      Similarly, let devs use basic tools. Ban slop from the end product.

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      17 hours ago

      Games were made by a single person not sleeping for a week.

      But people expect more now and one person can’t do it fueled just by passion. The other people want to get paid now, not when the game is released.

      Limiting the tools people can use to make games is ableist, elitist and just stupid.

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        16 hours ago

        Theyre not limiting their tools, they’re limiting some awards they could win by doing the art themselves.

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          16 hours ago

          No no. The rules didn’t say “art” it was ALL AI use for the whole duration of the project. Planning, emails, research everything.

          Not a single drop of AI is allowed.

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            15 hours ago

            I’m pretty sure sending Emails isnt considered game development.

            That Argument is moot though, because they were in fact banned for using AI Art, not some internal spreadsheet or Emails they sent.

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              13 hours ago

              This time yes. But the rule ban any and all AI use during development. It doesn’t matter if it’s in the final product or not.

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                Games developed using generative AI are strictly ineligible for nomination.

                https://www.indiegameawards.gg/faq

                You arent developing a game when you sennd Emails to someone. Same as you’re not a developer when you do the finances.

                Thats part of the company that arent involved in game development.

                Your argument is equal to me claiming piblishers are developers.

                They might want to make it more clear for the purposefully ignorant people though.

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                  12 hours ago

                  If you’re sending emails related to the development of the game you’re developing to other people developing that same game, you’re NOT developing the game? What kind of bullshit mental gymnastics is this?

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                    Sending Emails related to development is still not development itself.

                    If youre washing your gymnastic dress, it’s not considered doing gymnastics. You are even allowed to wash them while high. Still wouldn’t get you disqualified from the Contest, just when you’re actually high while doing gymnastics.

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                  13 hours ago

                  What about AI based autocomplete in an IDE, would that disqualify a game from this specific award?

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                    12 hours ago

                    Would you consider it your own code or Code that was generated by AI?