Since tomorrow is Christmas I thought I would post this in case you have any MAGA relatives who will be over.

  • KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz
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    1 day ago

    The fact that the system is rigged does not mean that voting doesn’t matter, I would say. Apart from that, yes well said, and spot on.

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      1 day ago

      Didn’t the electorial college elect Trump in 2016? I remember them saying that we needed a “strong Republican leader” due to the times or some bullshit, I don’t remember.

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        23 hours ago

        A 15 day old account spreading bullshit about disengaging from the civic process? Color me shocked!

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            15 hours ago

            What civic process has immediately stopped fascism within that timeframe in the past? Violence is necessary to snuff out fascism. However, that does not imply that you cannot continue engaging in the civic process while expunging fascism. In fact, it’s necessary.

            I’m sorry you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time but some of us are a bit more capable, it seems.

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              There wasn’t a civic process that defeated Hitler. There was a World War. The German people didn’t defeat Hitler. Defeating Hitler required outside intervention on a massive scale, the kind of intervention that the average person is literally incapable of alone or with a small group.

              If fascism is removed from America, it will probably be accomplished by the US military or by outside intervention. Probably won’t be citizens.

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                15 hours ago

                You seem to be incapable of understanding that the answer is both. Be an engaged citizen such that fascism has difficulty taking root and if or when it does then do not, for a moment, hesitate in expunging it with both direct and indirect violence. Or, more simply, vote you fucking idiot but when you need to kill nazis you gotta do the dirty work.

                This is the walk and chew gum analogy you had trouble interpreting.

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                  15 hours ago

                  “Be an engaged citizen so that fascism has difficulty taking root.” So, go back in time to the Mayflower? Or just go back in time to the 1980s, where our modern version of fascism began formalizing? This has been going on for many decades, how far back do you need to go?

                  “Vote you fucking idiot” our votes for President do not matter and can be overruled by the Electoral College. Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016 if I remember correctly. Addtionally, votes are counted using rigged voting machines.

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                    15 hours ago

                    Holy shit dude. I can tell this isn’t going to go anywhere.

                    I have neither the time nor the want to give any more shits about your ineffectual politics.