• zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    Could be worse, seriously. Safari is not a bad browser and WebKit is the only engine since years that can keep up with chromium. I get that it is annoying to have leas freedom on iOS, but I also appreciate the increased security[1] and quality of life that comes with it.

    [1] yes, I am aware that open source software tends to be more secure, as it can be reviewed by all. However, Android by default is way less secure than iOS, unless you use GraphiteOS or similar.

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      11 hours ago

      I also appreciate the increased security

      This hasn’t been true for a long, long time. Mac was only ever more secure than windows because not enough people used them to make them worthwhile attack vectors. Nowadays, iOS sees just as many vulnerabilities as every other popular OS.

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          2 hours ago

          Without taking a position on the claim itself, this is a bad citation. It makes a variety of claims that either don’t hold up to basic scrutiny, or aren’t evidence that iOS has a security advantage. Here are some examples:

          Open-source platform increases vulnerability surface area

          This is perhaps one of the most thoroughly debunked pieces of FUD in the entire tech industry.

          [Various claims about inconsistency between devices]

          These are mostly true but largely irrelevant. You’re not buying an aggregate of all Android devices that exist, but a specific device with specific traits. The Android phone you should actually buy will have a security chip and many years of updates just like an iPhone.

          The rigorous app review process and mandatory App Store distribution (except in EU) virtually eliminate malicious app threats for average users.

          This might be a benefit when the user has no clue how to use a computer, but I expect people posting in this community are past that stage. It’s a big disadvantage for those who want to use something like Firefox (real Firefox, not a skin on Safari) with potential security and privacy upsides.

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            18 minutes ago

            Again, specific sources are more or less irrelevant, because all sources agree. Plus, the onus isn’t on me to provide a source which debunks the claim that Android and iOS are equal in terms of vulnerability, the onus is on OP to provide a source which supports their assertion.

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          5 hours ago

          I wouldn’t really call this a “report” when there aren’t any metrics in the reasoning other than price.

          Even in their own article, it mentions how support and updates vary by manufacturer so it’s kind of meaningless to compare iPhone to the whole Android ecosystem. You’d need to choose one or more manufacturer in order to make an apples to apples comparison.

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            2 hours ago

            It was just the first one that came to hand. LOL at this source for another example: https://deepstrike.io/blog/Malware-Attacks-and-Infections-2025

            That claims that Android devices are 50 times more likely to be compromised than iOS. Look at most reports from people like Kasperky & Malwarebytes and they don’t even bother to mention iOS in statistics and only occasionally mention the platform if there is a specific notable threat.

            It can be argued that iOS isn’t as secure as Apple would like you to think or as a lot of Apple users do think, but it really can’t be argued that it’s equally as vulnerable as Android

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      10 hours ago

      Safari on iOS is especially tolerable since they allowed uBlock Origin Lite onto the App Store recently.

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      8 hours ago

      To be honest I don’t use Firefox on android anyways because it’s noticeably slower than chromium. Since I’m on graphene is I just stick to vanadium + DNS level adblocking.

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        2 hours ago

        There is actually a current Chromium-based browser for Android with Manifest v2 extension support and uBlock Origin.

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        It’s Microsoft Edge. No, I’m not advocating that you use it.