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      Everyone should read Pandora’s Jar by Natalie Haynes. One of the most eye-opening and comprehensive studies of Greek mythology I’ve ever encountered.

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          Absolutely. If nothing else, Haynes shows just how much mortals (particularly women) should despise Athena. Athena is not your friend. The Mousai were chill, and the Moirai didn’t fuck around, content to do their duty to the universe, but the big gods, the Olympians? They were pretty much all deeply awful beings, not worthy of respect, only fear. Even if you were “lucky” enough to end up attracting their attention (either because they seduced and/or raped your mother, because they want to seduce you, because they want you to be their champion in some petty chess game, or all three), the best you could hope for was living a life tormented by all of the other gods who didn’t choose you to be their special little toy, then dying and regretting all your life choices in the afterlife.

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          Hot take, I like the old God of War games better. It was a fun power fantasy series where you rampage through all of greek mythology as a man litterally far too angry to die. Yatzee from zero punctuation (now at secomd wind) said something like “Kratos ripped a dudes head off because he needed a torch”

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            It’s not a hot take. Everybody knows the “rebooted” series is crap. Not only I wanted a refund, but I demand they pay me for the trouble of playing their shit.

            Ten minutes into the game and I regretted buying it. “I don’t fucking know your dead wife. Leave me alone! Rampaging Greek mythology is what I want to do!”

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              I disagree that it’s crap. I think they’re very good. But I also think they’re not fully comparable outside of the fact that they are different style of games.

              People can have preference but sadly if you prefer the originals you’ll likely feel as if you’ve lost the chance of more like them.

              I actually think the combat is not that different to original, but just with a different perspective. I think this can be felt especially in Ragnarok and in the free DLC of it that really focuses on on the combat.

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        Sorry for another reply not about the book you recommended.

        I just wanted to say that Athena is a real beach too in God of War series. She’s been the agent of Kratos, making him serve the Olympia gods for ten years, doing all the dirty work. And what did she do to help Kratos? Nothing except giving him more chores!

        And when Kratos did all they asked? “Sorry, sweetheart, but I can’t actually help you get rid of your nightmares… you know, tricking you into killing your own wife and daughter.”

        “Oh, I am so sad. Guess I’ll just kill myself by jumping off this cliff.” jumps

        “No, you’re not going to die today. We made you the new god of war and you got to serve us more!”

        Seriously, fuck that beach.

        I feel no remorse when Kratos accidentally penetrated her with a big sword and killed her.

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          Hey, not a problem. All Haynes does is lay out the actual texts we have with dry wit. Yeah, that sounds about right for Athena. Consider Ariadne, who got seduced by Athena’s champion into betraying her father, then when she ran away with Theseus, he left her on a fucking island to die. In one version, he’s given the excuse that Dionysus wants to marry her, and so he still leaves her without explanation or apology. Every one of Athena’s “champions” are dicks. From war-criminal Odysseus to serial abductor and pedophile Theseus, to Mr. “I’m going to go kill some random lady who’s bothering nobody on an island” himself, Perseus.

          You either are on her bad side, or you’re a smug dick who is so awful that you’ve got Athena’s respect, the most dubious honour in the Kosmos.