• Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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    It’s wild to me that the US is going to make a run at taking over the world. Growing up here in the 80s and 90s we were taught that we were the country that prevented anyone else from trying that. Hell we, according to our schooling, ended both world wars.

    I don’t mean that I grew up trusting the government, but it wasn’t on my life bingo card that we would ever attempt world conquest. Trump was a guy everybody made fun of when I was a kid, so him as president was unexpected the first time, and unimaginable a second time after his first performance.

    We live in a bad novel. The plot is stupid and the characters suck and the ending is going to be ugly.

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      we were the country that prevented anyone else from trying that

      And what better way than just doing it ourselves!

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      One of the problems withamerica their ingrained manifest Destiny belif.

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        Blame whatever you want, but if probably all the rest of the developed world doesn’t cooperate and do something about it soon we’re gonna get to find out what WWIII looks like.

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        Yeah, if anything, 1945-2025 may end being a historical anomaly. The US was an aggressively expensive colonial settler state though most of its history. We’re still settler colonial, but we’ve at least not been aggressively expansionist for nearly a century.

        Over 300 years of aggressive expansion (if you include the colonial period.) A return to orthodoxy after an 80 year hiatus doesn’t seem so unusual in that regard. Really, everyone who remembered why we stopped acting that way has now died of old age, so we now have only our shared national mythos to guide us. And our culture has continued to celebrate its expansionist past, even if we’ve walked away from it as policy over the last few generations.

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      the US is going to make a run at taking over the world

      I hope that’s not meant to imply that the US is a monolith. This is the US government hijacked by dictator Trump. The American people have not been asked, and have no representation in the current criminal regime.

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        Nope, we haven’t been asked at all, but Hitler didn’t ask Germany if they wanted to take over the world before he tried either. Just because I’m against what my country is doing doesn’t exempt me from the deserved hatred the rest of the world must feel towards us.

        Hell, there’s a nonzero chance that the last election was completely rigged, Trump didn’t win a damn thing, and he was simply installed to do this grizzly work by the rich men who want to own everything. We don’t have a mechanism in place to reel the bastards in. Militarization on our own soil has begun to squash resistance, they’ve just decorated it as immigration control. Shit, our cops have had armored vehicles and such for decades.

        I’m not convinced it’s hopeless, but only because I’ve read too many books where the “good guys” win. A third of my country has never read a book voluntarily. Here we are.

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        That’s not entirely fair to say. Trump is certainly a critical component in all this, but absolutely none of it would be possible without the Republican party being so eagerly complicit. They let him make the big, loud, unfavorable moves and support those moves as quietly as they can.

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          The Republican Party has always been full of Republicans. The reason that someone like Taco was able to walk into the place, slap his name on the place, and do even worse things than they were doing before is no accident.

          When people in the Republican Party pine for the party of “true conservatives” and pretend they don’t understand what happened to their party, they are obviously ignoring decades of history, including the work of hate radio and Faux News.

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      I’m about the same age and definitely wasn’t taught that. I was taught that other countries only remain free because of our protection and the US and the USSR were basically like two crime families fighting each other over territory.

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      Did you miss the US spreading fascism to every corner of the globe. The US already won the war. Every country is fascist with ever growing income gaps. The wealthy won and humanity lost.