• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    My favorite part of Harry Potter is when Hermione tries to get everyone to oppose slavery and everyone’s just like why are you being so mouthy?

    JK Rowling has views that were regressive for the 1800s. It’s amazing we didn’t see it sooner.

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      She also randomly changes her mind at some point and agrees slavery is ok because the slaves said they don’t mind.

      I did not enjoy the books back in the day and was not shocked when JKR was revealed to be a bigot.

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      For all her bigotry, I don’t think Rowling is/was pro slavery. In the books that plot point is clearly meant as social critique against the imaginary wizarding society.

      But after a while I guess the plot point got boring and it doesn’t make sense for the world to change because of some random school girl’s protest, so the whole thing was dropped.

      Kinda like fridays for future. At first the reporting around it was like “Cool, the kids have something they getting political”, then it got boring and then society got hateful against it and then everyone just ignored them and nothing was changed by it.

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        I didn’t really interpret it that way. I took it as “look how annoying people who complain about social justice are”.

        I don’t think she literally supports slavery but it was clearly an allegory for what she views as annoying activist types.

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          Rowling said on multiple occasions that Hermione is her “idealized self-insert”.

          So I don’t think she’d use her own self-insert to say “Look how stupid people like me are”. Doesn’t really make sense.

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            She also said that she was Black, so I’m not sure how trustworthy she is on the subject

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              IIRC she said she never specified Hermione’s race, which is technically true. But at one point she did physically describe her to be fair skinned.

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              Hermione isn’t a real person. An author can make their characters whatever they want at any time for any reason with no regard for established cannon. Writers do it all the time. They may be terrible writers, or even terrible people, but none the less they “own” the character.

              Ditch the bitch and stop complaining about skin tone.

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                What an odd response

                Does the fact that a character isn’t real mean that we can’t point out when an author contradicts themselves? Even if she claimed that the contradiction doesn’t exist?

                Does referring to someone in a thread about that person mean that you’re a fan of them?

                Does mentioning where someone has contradicted themselves mean that you’re complaining about the thing that they contradicted themselves over?

                Did you put any thought whatsoever into your post or was it just a knee-jerk response?

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                  It’s just weird to fixate on skin tone. There’s plenty to criticize JK about, but that ain’t it.

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          It was prevailing thought at the time though too (~2000s), I remember my mates and I looking at activists with some measurable annoyance and disdain. I don’t think her attitude was so far out of whack with the general vibe

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      I thought that was the most realistic part of the books. How many hundreds of years of people crying out against slavery did it take for chattel slavery to be abolished? Sure, it would also have been realistic for there to have been more people opposing slavery, but as an initial reaction? Society would absolutely shit on her out of inertia.