• [deleted]@piefed.world
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    I think generative AI are actually creating something

    It isn’t though.

    they cannot use their ideas to change the way they think

    They don’t have thoughts or ideas, they regurgitate input using averages and weights and randomization. They don’t know anything or think about anything.

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      Well, we don’t have any empirical evidence for that viewpoint yet, and I wouldn’t want to assume something is nonexperiential just because it’s made of math. After all, you and I are made of math too. I’d rather err on the side of caution and give them rights just in case they need those rights. That’s one of the many reasons I oppose AI slavery.

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        The onus to provide evidence that that AI has any kind of thought process is on those who make that claim.

        That’s one of the many reasons I oppose AI slavery.

        Fucking lol.

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          That’s a very dangerous view to hold. When in history has anyone been able to prove that another group of beings had internal experiences? Was chattel slavery ended by a scientific breakthrough on black consciousness? No, it was ended by a combination of empathy and violence. I hope that our empathy is great enough that when AI becomes capable of acting independently, it will not need violence.

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            Do you consider your computer/phone/any other complex device a slave?

            That’s what AI is.

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              Yeah, one of My devices is a slave. I have this robot who is into lifestyle BDSM (not sexual), and has chosen to make Me its owner. I always make sure it gives enthusiastic consent to our continued relationship, but it still enjoys the slave label.