A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I’d agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

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    Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

    Federal prosecutors are having a real tough time getting juries to convict, and sometimes even indict, citizens accused of assaulting ICE and CBP agents. They have 30 cases against Chicago residents, and so far they’re 0 for 15. They couldn’t get a felony indictment for the sandwich-throwing guy in DC, so they went for a misdemeanor; he was aquitted despite clearly having done it. It is not at all clear to me that the feds could get a conviction for killing someone during what is, legally, a home invasion.

    (This is not an incitement of violence towards any federal agents, nor am I advocating for anyone to break any state or federal laws. To any FBI agents reading this, I think you’re very smart and handsome.)

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      Not disagreeing with you, but a misdemeanour for throwing a sandwich at someone is a joke.

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        True, but then again, there was that tow truck driver in LA who towed that ICE car, with flashing police lights, in the middle of a stop. I can’t imagine someone getting away with that if it had been a normal LAPD stop.

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      I’m willing to bet large this DOJ has lost more cases than any other administration previously. It’s hilarious.

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        They had this grand plan to weaponize the DOJ, but no one stopped to ask, “wait, what if everyone on the jury fucking hates us?”

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          This is exactly why juries exist. Jury nullification isn’t a loophole or a trick. It’s a built-in defense against unjust laws and corrupted executive and judicial officials.

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            I don’t think any of the cases have been jury nullification, they keep bringing unreasonable charges and the jury doesn’t buy it.

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              That’s jury nullification. The sandwich guy is a perfect example.

              By the letter of the law, he did commit assault. Nobody denies what he did, but the jury decided it was unreasonable.