Nvidia has confirmed “Globes” report that it has chosen the Israel Land Authority (ILA) area in Kiryat Tivon to build its huge campus that will accommodate up to 10,000 employees.
According to the illustration published by the US chip giant, this will be a large campus inspired by the design of the company’s new iconic headquarters in Santa Clara. When built it will be surrounded by commercial areas and restaurants with investment in parks and green spaces.
Lot of poison in these comments. You know that regular people live in Israel, right? People like you, with no control over the big decisions. Just like Palestinians can’t control Hamas, Russians can’t control Putin, US citizens can’t control Trump, and so on.
You are crossing the line. One comment called it a scumbag country. One comment suggested they’d be happy to see Iran’s missiles hit an office building if built in Israel (ostensibly with Israelies in it at the time).
I understand you have feelings about the war. Makes sense. It’s horrible. But, this is beyond that. Now you’re just othering Israelies while claiming they are othering Palestinians.
It makes no sense to just wish whole populations destruction. To call an entire country scumbag is just silly. No matter who is doing it.
I actually expected to find an interesting conversation about why Nvidia would make such a choice and what that would mean for the chip markets, and the war, and so on. Instead, I just found hate in it’s silliest and least intellectual form.
EDIT: Please, can someone explain this to me? Honest question. Why the down votes? What is it you disagree with? Is it that you assume I have the same information as you, so I should have the same conclusions/feelings? Is it that you find my analysis incorrect? Is it that you think I am missing something?
Am I in the wrong place to ask these questions?
It’s not a war, that would imply there was some sort of ability for semi-organized resistance…it is quite literally pure genocide.
Indeed. Anyone who still uses the word war instead of genocide is likely one of those “regular Israelis”. Zero condemnation of Israel and 100% victim complex.
Normal people lived in Nazi Germany too.
Also, there’s no real opposition to what their military is doing according to Pew Research .
Vastly more Israelis care about the war expanding than they do the atrocities that are being committed in their name. Hell, they have less faith now that this will not exterminate Gaza than they did last year. Even Israelis know what’s coming, the majority just don’t care.
Maybe stop defending the country where 3/4 of the population thinks the current state of Gaza is ok or not going far enough.
According to polling, Israelis overwhelmingly support the genocide. They are complicit.
I would be surprised if the polls weren’t rigged.
If the polls are rigged, does that imply that most Israelis don’t support the genocide? So … you think you’ve got a majority of people who don’t support the genocide and with that majority you plan to do … nothing? Just gonna … let the minority do what they want?
There’s a word for that, the word is “support”. You might not think you’re supporting it, but if you’re not doing something to fight it, then yes, you are supporting it. Get to work. Nobody ever promised that doing the right thing has to be easy.
I wouldn’t, you don’t see a massive outcry from the populace at large about it, it’s only ever a few here or there. You do see plenty of their citizenry cheering it on, however, so your disbelief in the poling doesn’t have much merit to it.
They are rigged by the cultural structure surrounding Israel’s society.
Lots of enabling in your comment.
If people can’t control their own governments, who can? Who should? Other people’s governments? Is that how you think it’s supposed to work? That’s why Israel is obliterating Gaza? Because Gaza can’t get rid of Hamas themselves so Israel is going to do it for them? Do you think that is justified and the right way to do things? Is it Canada’s job to rescue the US? Is it Europe’s responsibility to stop Russia?
Are Iranians responsible for the Iranian regime? Yes, they are, that’s why they’re fucking protesting and dying in the streets right now. Resist, fight back, don’t comply, undermine your illegitimate government until they can be toppled.
Take responsibility. I am responsible for the actions of my government and my country. And so are you. You will be held responsible. And you should be. Other countries are not responsible for fixing your shit. You are. Fix it. Figure out how. Stop acting like it’s somebody else’s problem and you are just a humble peasant. Humble peasants can start revolutions. Lazy citizens who are happy with the status quo while pretending they don’t agree with it do not start revolutions. Which one are you?
All of the ‘regular people’ living in Israel should get out at their earliest convenience and stop supporting the genocide state.
I’ll disagree. The Israeli leadership is doing horrible things and the only way for those of us not in Israel to attempt to stop them is to boycott all of Israel - we have no way of picking and choosing products/services from Israel that will help/hurt the regime. Moves like this by NVIDIA are seen as subverting the boycott in a very significant way and draw out the negative responses you see here. The only people that can legitimately change the Israeli leadership are the Israeli people and they are going to face negative opinions from outside until they do. I understand very well that I’m extremely lucky that I live in a country that has not been taken over by fascists and I do what I can to keep it that way.
Yet.
Don’t become complacent, especially in these times.
When they say scumbag country, they’re not saying a country of scumbags. It is because the state of Israel acts like a grossly intolerable human being; the most immoral, self-centred, holier-than-thou, hubristic, arrogant, racist, hateful, lashing, mistrustful person you have ever met. Like you wouldn’t ever want to have a conversation with, let alone have to spend time with, live with, be locked in a cell with. I am of the opinion that no person is “too far gone”, but for a state, what makes a state? I think this is the comparison.
People there a genuinely fed up with what Israel-the-State did, does and means, but it’s universal, unconditional backing makes any objection ignored or even presecuted, that pushes them even further in their speech when they have a place to vent about it. Most (I heartly assume) won’t even think of supporting a random bombing of civilians in Israel, but IDF headquarters, Pegasus developers’ office may be seen as a fair game, since it is a matter of a personal choice. And these plans of Nvidia to build a facility there aren’t far from that, this company is collaborating and supporting whatever that exact state does. That puts a stain on every entity that knowingly wants to profit off that, from contractors to employees many of whom have career options elsewhere.
For Israel, inviting more and more companies on their ground brings them leverage, importance, legitimizes their landgrabs on international level and makes these facilities essentially a hostage, attack on which would be seen as extremely unacceptable. For Nvidia it’s, probably, an undisclosed agreement about price rates for land, resources, maybe an untapped recruiting potential, but more importantly less regulations compared to more woke countries, as everything benefitting Israel is pretty legal and nice. As Israel army and intelligence want to be on the edge of weaponizing machine learning, it makes sense these two partner up to ensure maximal efficiency in their endeavours. It is unethical to train your AI to aim a gun at brown people, but not there, and here half of the world pays for just that kind of thing.
For the war - it means, that another mega company put it’s chips on the current Israeli state, so we are further and further from any sensible resolution. It’s the opposite - it would feel even more empowered to do attrocities to everyone around them. And with how the situation unfolds, it’s hard to imagine this state, and even the same people who populate this place to stop being the driving force behind genocides and warcrimes for it looks if not designed to be a constant peace disruptor, an avantguard of western hard power in the ME, but happens to be just that, and succeedes at that.
What you wrote is only partially true because people of USA and Israel have influence on their domestic&foreign policy with democracy that they enjoy.
They are terrorists hiding under the hospitals, the regular people in Israel.