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    Minnesota has emerged as a heroic example of state and local and neighborhood-level resistance in the name of core patriotic and Christian values.

    Christian values.

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      I thought Christian values were causing all of this in the first place? A cabal of white Christian nationaist pedophiles have coopted the government and are attempting to kick off the apocalypse by baiting Israel into being destroyed.

      When you write it all out there, you really do feel insane.

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        Strictly speaking, Christian values directly oppose treating immigrants poorly. Or as second class citizens. Explicitly stated in the old and new testament. You know, Biblical law that we ‘should’ all be following.

        On the other hand, “It’s easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.” And “Love of money is the root of all evil.” Doesn’t seem to be cited by Prosperity Christians.

        https://saintmarks.org/justice/renewing-our-covenant/what-does-the-bible-say-about-refugees-and-immigrants/

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          Growing up, I was always told to remember John 3:16. As I get older, I become more and more partial to John 2:15.

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              John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

              John 2:15 - And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

              Basically: when young, God and Jesus loves you. As I get older, I’m not above whipping and flipping tables at people who continue to use the religion as an excuse to hurt and subjugate others.

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      There are about 235 million people in the US who identify as Christian. They are far from a monolith. There is considerable variability of values between all of those different denominations and congregations.

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        Oh honey, I hardly think it’s that many people. God is fake. A man made creation and nothing more.

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          https://www.pewresearch.org/religious-landscape-study/

          341,784,857 (official population estimate from 2025) * 62% (proportion of people who identify as Christian per Pew survey from 2023-2024) = 211,906,611.

          So… You’re right, but they were in the ball park, but also about spot on if you include the 7% “Other religions” (who presumably mostly also believe in a god).

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            How many of those Christians go to church and aren’t just agnostic or religious for social status?

            5%? Where is “Pew” to save this one?

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              The majority at least? Where I live, people say we have a church on every corner. Because we almost literally do. I drive past 5 just on my way to work every day. They wouldn’t be there if people didn’t attend. In my experience, even most of the non-affiliated will say they believe in a “higher power” or somesuch. In the Pew survey, only 6% out of the 29% non-affiliated identified as agnostic, and only 5% as atheist. Living in the south, having grown up in the bible belt, I can say with very high confidence that more than 5% of Christians actually believe in god. I’m sure some do maintain a facade for social reasons (I did myself for a few years, though would have been honest on an anonymous survey), but certainly not 95%+.

              I’m sure it varies by location (obviously, the bible belt was thusly nicknamed for a reason), but the idea that less than 5% of Christians anywhere actually practice / believe in god just stretches credulity.

              Where is “Pew” to save this one?

              Right here: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-attendance-and-congregational-involvement/