• Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    And you edited the fuck out of the comment I responded to, how very Good Faith of you!

    The MeToo movement was about holding abusers accountable for their actions, and trying to take some of the shame away from being a victim.

    That’s it.

    Falsely accusing someone of rape is wrong, sure, and if that’s what the MeToo movement was about, you’d have a point, but… it wasn’t. That just seems to be your take.

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      I made changes to clarify, nothing else.

      MeToo movement was about holding abusers accountable for their actions,

      I have absolutely no problem with that part, but we’ve seen examples where it caused a reversal of the burden of proof, the mere accusation against someone, can ruin their life, even if they are innocent.
      That’s the problem with holding the courts in the street as MeToo has often done, instead of in actual courts.

      Obviously the reason MeToo exist is that the problem they address is real, and I acknowledge that women needs to be protected against that problem. But when what is considered sexual assault becomes 100% subjective, and a man can be accused of it, by merely taking an elevator with a woman, then we are at the level of insane. And this is not just hypothetical, an entire congress of hundreds of people was disrupted on exactly this issue. The woman admitted the man didn’t even approach her, but she was offended that he dared enter the elevator with her, as to her she claimed it broke her boundaries.
      Men can’t be required to behave according to such paranoia of women. And for comparison, the man could say the same, that women shouldn’t enter an elevator with a lonely man, out of fear he might be accused of rape.

      That is insanity. And is not based in any form of moral standard. Being psychotically paranoid should not be treated as the norm.
      If the woman asks if a man could please take the next one, I bet 90% of men would respect that. In case someone doesn’t, it must be the woman that leaves the elevator, because it is her that has a problem using elevators normally.

      Falsely accusing someone of rape is wrong, sure, and if that’s what the MeToo movement was about, you’d have a point, but… it wasn’t.

      No it’s not what MeeToo is about, but their principles are so extreme, they demand that women be trusted on their word alone, and THAT has an enormous potential for the above result.