• Rhoeri@piefed.world
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    5 hours ago

    It’s not going to fail. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think we will see the outcome we’d like to see.

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      We must assume it will. We know these people are incredibly incompetent and of the 3 estimated tracks I theorized (in risk planning), Trump is somewhere between the lowest and middle tier of inflicting tyranny.

      Game Theory is that we must be viligent and also assume they will be legit and drive turnout for Democrats.

      (to those who criticize the AIPAC Dems and what not, now is the time to get involved in Dem primaries to get more progressives in).

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        I don’t know about competent but brazen for sure. Think they won’t try to steal the election by straight up bombing high density liberal areas? Oh, they definitely would.

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        heory is that we must be viligent and also assume they will be legit and drive turnout for Democrats.

        (to those who criticize the AIPAC Dems and what not, now is the time to get involved in Dem primaries to get more progressives in).

        Technically, the best time to start building primary candidates was immediately after the last election. The second best time is now.

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        Those incredibly incompetent people managed to turn America into a full-on dictatorship. Those incompetent people are murdering people in broad daylight with impunity. Those incompetent people are illegally deporting citizens live on camera, those incompetent people are getting away with the largest sex-trafficking pedo-ring in history-

        At what point are we going to stop calling them incompetent and start accepting that they’ve efficiently undermined the history- and future, of the largest superpower on the entire planet all within 6 months.

        It’s over already. We lost.

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          ^ EVERYONE BE VERY WARY OF COMMENTS LIKE THIS SPREADING DEFEATISM, APATHY.

          It’s over already. We lost.

          This is bullshit, and I can think of 100000 ways it could be 1,00,000x worse than it is.

          It is a completely and utterly non-constructive mindset and intended to prevent action and resistance. At BEST, it is just completely ignorant and short-sighted. The only thing this mindset does is help the fascists. Please, don’t help the fascists.

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          This is a miserably defeatist attitude and it helps no one. If you’re not going to say anything useful, then just stay out of our way, please.

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          It’s over already. We lost.

          You only lose if you refuse to fight. Look, I know it looks hopeless. I’ve been fighting for energy transitions for 25 years, if you think I don’t know what hopeless feels like? I have good news for you though. The future didn’t always look this dark once. That also means you don’t know how bright it might be around the next bend. I will probably not live to see victory if it happens; and it may never happen. That doesn’t mean it isn’t worth going down fighting anyway.

          In the frame of reference of the grand scope of the universe, everything anyone anywhere has ever done is inconsequential. But in the frame of reference of right here, right now, what you chose to be, matters. It matters to everyone around you, everyone you care about, and it matters to you. MY fight isn’t over until I choose for it to be over or someone takes me out. Is yours?

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          The take away isn’t that they’re not incompetent, they absolutely are, it’s that the bar to getting away with all of that was way lower than anybody ever thought. All those checks and balances, laws and conventions, and distributed powers ultimately mean nothing if someone controls enough of the government and the one thing Republicans have been highly competent about is making sure a majority of every branch of government has been packed with loyal Republicans. Once that was done nothing else mattered, it’s Calvin Ball from here out so it literally doesn’t matter that they’re all knuckle dragging morons.

          At this point there are only three possible ways of fixing this. In order from best to worst the first possibility is that MAGA doesn’t feel bold enough to outright ignore the midterms and they lose their majority in at least the legislative branch. The second possibility is that they fuck with the midterms so obviously that the military feels compelled to actually follow their oath to defend the Constitution and stages a military coup to oust MAGA. The third and worst possibility is that the military fails to act and it’s up to regular citizens to stage a revolt which would likely lead to a second civil war. Best case scenario in that case is that the military either sits things out or else fractures and sides in part with each side. Worst case the military sides with MAGA.

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            As we saw with his first two impeachments, impeachment is not removal. So long as the cult of personality continues to support him, so too will the Republican Party.