The Gentoo Linux project last year announced plans to move their code hosting to Codeberg rather than GitHub. Gentoo’s desire to move away from GitHub was motivated by Microsoft’s Copilot training on GitHub repositories. Those plans are turning into action now with the main Gentoo project up on Codeberg and honoring pull requests.
Gentoo announced today they now have a presence on Codeberg and are welcoming code contributions there as an alternative to GitHub. Initially it’s their ebuild repository being hosted on Codeberg while eventually all Gentoo GitHub repositories will be migrated. Codeberg is based on Forgejo and hosted in Germany as a non-profit.
genuine question.
I was of the impression that one of the major selling points of de-federated services such as this was to not have to engage in circumvention to get around policies and rules that you don’t agree with.
If you don’t agree with the administration of an instance then don’t use that instance (or start your own and de-federate that instance i suppose).
Dialogue about the policies and subjective opinion makes sense, if that’s how you want to engage, but the somewhat decentralised nature of the fediverse make someone power tripping as an admin on an instance is easy enough to avoid by just not engaging.
More succinctly , why would you want to expend effort to be part of an instance that foundationally doesn’t align with your values.
To put it another way, a mod doing their utmost to create an echo chamber of their liking (no matter how distasteful that liking might be) is allowable within the bounds of how this was all designed, the system working as intended.
Whereas creating multiple accounts to avoid bans, while technically possible, seems kind of outside of the intended process.
I could be very wrong about how all this works however, as my grasp of the intricacies is somewhat shallow.
It’s mostly correct, and you see exactly that with the other 2 Tankie Triad instances hex and grad. But for Lemmy.ml specifically they’re special because
Which is why I expend the effort instead of just ignoring them like I do hex and grad
Another issue is that because of this special position .ml is in it has been expressed to me in the past by an admin that they and a few other main admins don’t want to risk possible support from dessalines if they have the audacity to defed
The multiple accounts aren’t for avoiding bans and no account of mine is currently banned (except for the ones I don’t control (had a bit of an imposter problem last year)) they’re really just for those 4 reasons listrd.
As for user blocks im actually rolling out a blurb on my user profile bios that directs people to a place that lists all active accounts used for this crossposting campaign. I’m pasting it in on accounts I start posting from as I go.
Again, i could be wrong here, but it sounds like you’re expecting a group of people who have shown no interest in moving on any of their positions to change their minds because you are drawing attention to content and behaviour…that they don’t deem to be an issue in the first place.
That sounds like screaming into the void to me, but as i said, i really don’t understand the nuances at play.
Isn’t the system expected response to such irreconcilable disagreements to start your own instance (with optional hookers and blackjack), enforce your own rules and regulations there and let people decide which they prefer (if any)?
Makes sense.
Injecting activity into non-.ml comms and growing them beyond the .ml version is probably the next best thing to wide defederation.
At least it gives those advocating the Threadiverse on the outside something to say when people inevitably bring up tankies on Lemmy. Makes them less relevant.
Kinda, it helps dilute the waters further, but doesn’t really solve the root issue
This makes sense.
It’s probably something obvious i’m missing, but what is the root problem ?
The Lemmy network and the Threadiverse at large being associated as just a Tankie hangout
For example, this was from a Reddit thread last week I saw when it was just starting to get big:
In this case Rimu (PieFed dev) and others were quick to jump in and steer, so hopefully this whole boycotting/cross-posting campaign at the very least gives them more fuel when these comments come up on the outside something like “Tankies are there, but they don’t have any important comms so you can just block those 3 instances or join [x] instance which blocks them for you”