As I said, that’s a different argument. But claiming that Russia was demanding land is just not the case.
in a war of pure aggression and greed
I don’t support Russia or Putin. But their aim has been blatantly to not have NATO on their border here, and to have a series of buffer states.
The only deal Ukraine should accept
Given neither one of us is fighting in the trenches, I don’t think either of us should be telling Ukrainian conscripts what they should or shouldn’t accept. It’s pretty morally repugnant to me to demand someone else fights and dies for something I won’t.
You do get, if they accepted that deal, that would effectively be the end of Ukraine the moment Russia regroups for another attack. What country would accept a deal that effectively hands all power to their enemy. That isn’t actually a deal, it’s another act of aggression. Sure, it’s not for us to decide. But you’re even more delusional if you think Ukrainians want to hand additional power to Russia. It seems like you’re accepting Russian propaganda as reality.
We usually have things called elections to find out what people want to do.
How many democratic countries in defensive wars (ones where they have skin in the game) have held elections mid-war? Nobody doubts Britain’s a democracy, but they suspended elections in WW2. And it’s not like Churchill became PM fresh off an election campaign himself.
As I said, that’s a different argument. But claiming that Russia was demanding land is just not the case.
I don’t support Russia or Putin. But their aim has been blatantly to not have NATO on their border here, and to have a series of buffer states.
Given neither one of us is fighting in the trenches, I don’t think either of us should be telling Ukrainian conscripts what they should or shouldn’t accept. It’s pretty morally repugnant to me to demand someone else fights and dies for something I won’t.
You do get, if they accepted that deal, that would effectively be the end of Ukraine the moment Russia regroups for another attack. What country would accept a deal that effectively hands all power to their enemy. That isn’t actually a deal, it’s another act of aggression. Sure, it’s not for us to decide. But you’re even more delusional if you think Ukrainians want to hand additional power to Russia. It seems like you’re accepting Russian propaganda as reality.
We usually have things called elections to find out what people want to do.
No, again, I just don’t call for wars I don’t fight in.
How many democratic countries in defensive wars (ones where they have skin in the game) have held elections mid-war? Nobody doubts Britain’s a democracy, but they suspended elections in WW2. And it’s not like Churchill became PM fresh off an election campaign himself.
Britain didn’t suspend elections in WWII, they used a parliamentary trick to avoid them.
They’re a monarchy. Without a constitution.