• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Again, early teens is not a woman, that’s grade school or beginning of high school:

    TNR reporter Edith Olmsted wrote that “A 21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens,” Olmsted wrote. “When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.”

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      The correct terminology depends on context.

      As others have mentioned, when they said woman there they were referring to the present report of a woman, who was a teen and the time of the event.

      Calling an adult female human a woman is not wrong.

      Calling a teen a teen is not wrong.

      Legally teens under 18 are also children.

      Technically everyone is someone’s child.

      Though not considered adults by most laws, biologically people become adults after puberty, which varies by individual. The period during puberty they are adolescents, neither children nor yet adults.

      Context matters.

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        What are you talking about? It’s plain wrong. “Trump forced a woman” is incorrect. She wasn’t a woman then, it doesn’t matter that she is one now. He forced a child.

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        You’re not wrong.

        Before the late 1800s age of consent laws didn’t exist. Like a bar mitzvah was a celebration of adulthood, at 13, iirc.

        Marrying children was common. And knocking up young teen girls was normal. And this still happens…

        I think the saying was/is, “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.”