• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    The world is in a bad place right now, but it was even worse of when we are right at the edge of global nuclear war in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Before that the world was on the verge of falling in the early 1940s to fascist rule of Hitler and the Emperor of Japan with most of Europe occupied and concentration camps exterminating thousands of innocent people a day.

    As bad as it is today, we’ve had worse, and we made it through it to better times. It won’t come without effort, but humanity will get through this too.

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      17 hours ago

      Nuclear was was always an apocalypse that might happen. Climate change is an apocalypse that is happening.

      Hitler was bad, but he didn’t have anything like the arsenal and intelligence networks available to Trump. We have the consentration camps, and the death camps too, although those are outsourced in other countries.

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        14 hours ago

        Nuclear was was always an apocalypse that might happen.

        I’m not sure if you know the history of how close we came to nuclear war in October 1962. It was the first time in history the USA ever went to Defcon 2. We had 25 nuclear bombers in the air with the rest of them on 15 minute standby.

        Hitler was bad, but he didn’t have anything like the arsenal and intelligence networks available to Trump. We have the consentration camps, and the death camps too, although those are outsourced in other countries.

        As bad as trump is, has he murdered 13 million innocent people yet? That’s Hitler’s number of murdered innocent people.

        We have been at worse points in history than we are right now.

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            13 hours ago

            Also that happened. There was also an “accidental” incursion of ussr air space by the US (likely accidental as the plane ended up landing in Alaska with no fuel)

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          14 hours ago

          I do know our history, and in October 1962 the odds of nuclear war were less than the odds of a climate apocalypse today, because they weren’t 100%.

          As bad as trump is, has he murdered 13 million innocent people yet?

          Yet? No. But he is on course. The estimated number of deaths from his illegal USAID cuts is actually 14 million by 2030. That’s one policy. I expect that number will be dwarfed by the long term impacts of his environmental policy. Then we have the pending excitement in Iran to worry about. A nation of 93 million people can throw at least a few million more lives on the pyre before all is done.