If you tried BlueStacks and androidstudio and those don’t work, and you don’t have access to an old android device, then you could try something like BrowserStack - I’ve occasionally used them to test websites in specific combinations of OS and browser version on supposedly real devices. They have an option to test android apps, and you may be able to transfer your apk or paste in a share link to try it out there.

I think they give you 30 minutes free, but I haven’t tried the app testing (since I’m a web dev) so idk if it would be excluded from the sign up bonus. The price for a single freelancer is $19 month to month.

I see! My metaphor was mainly meant to illustrate that whether anticheat is directly related to the current security issue is orthogonal to why I thought it was relevant to bring up. I could have picked a better one that didn’t imply that their misplaced concern about Linux cheaters actually consumes resources.

Maybe a better metaphor would be a municipality refusing to do something about a small issue (maybe poor transit to a specific neighborhood) and also actively refusing to let that neighborhood solve the problem themselves (proton devs) with the excuse that allowing that neighborhood to have transit would cost too much (even if the neighborhood were to do it themselves) and cause more crime (painting Linux users as hackers) all the while some completely unrelated group is actually causing the crime elsewhere.

I’m assuming this is a good faith question and that you’re not just just trying to play word games: they’re focused on scapegoating Linux by refusing to support it and blaming it for supposedly being a security nightmare. I’m pointing out that this is misplaced obviously because they have bigger concerns, as evidenced by the article.

I think you’re misunderstanding why I’m bringing it up. It’s not because I think their server is protected by anticheat, but because they’re both forms of security. And my point is that their security posture is focused on the wrong area by scapegoating Linux instead of where they should be focusing, server security. If you don’t think their misplaced focus on Linux (which I agree is unrelated to server security) has anything to do with getting hacked then I don’t know what to tell you.

To give it an analogy, if your local government had unmaintained roads and you commented about how they spend tons of resources on police patting down everyone to prevent them from planting gardens, sure you could say it’s “not related to roads”, but that’s the whole point of bringing it up. It’s unrelated which is why it’s dumb to be focusing on it. Client sided anticheat is not equal to server security, but the misplaced security focus makes it relevant even if it’s not specifically on topic.

It’s like if a boat was sinking due to a huge hole and your captain was busy trying to stop people from tightening loose bolts on wobbly chairs. Yeah it’s not the same thing, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t useful to point out the misplaced focus.

Does that make sense?

(Edited to make the metaphors illustrate both 1. unrelated issues being relevant to a discussion within the scope of misplaced focus and 2. that the misplaced focus in this case isn’t even because they’re spending resources on the other issue, but rather trying to scapegoat and block people from fixing the unrelated issue)

Thank goodness they refused to support Proton/Linux then because, and this is a direct quote from their ticket tracker: “Linux is an open door for cheaters” 🙄

Yes I clearly agree, but convincing upper management of that isn’t always as straightforward as suggesting another cardboard box supplier as the other commenter suggested.

The problem is uline is a 1 stop shop for many businesses to buy a whole range of supplies, not just boxes. At my last job basically everything in the office came from uline, including the desks, trash cans, hand soap, mops, the disposable cups in the kitchen, and many of the warning signs plastered around the machine shop. The problem was known then but we weren’t successful in convincing them to replace uline with 5-10 other separate companies.

Keep in mind that elementary is doesn’t provide an in place upgrade path between major versions, I didn’t realize this when I set it up for my parents so they’ve been stuck on one major version since I can’t backup, fresh install, and restore remotely.

but I can accept that you meant it differently than typed.

I did not mean it differently than typed. I said “to me it’s not a loss” and I mean that. To me it’s not a loss, to them it is.

ml is a self choosen label though, so people can choose not to use it.

And people can choose to treat people the same based on that label, and I can choose to think it’s immature. And at the same time I can not care if people choose to cut themselves off from ml.

You literally say it again here where you advocate for not treating everyone the same

No, I advocate for not dismissing people solely based on their chosen instance without taking into account their actual views. I do not advocate against blocking ml entirely, because I don’t view being cut off from people who make those types of assumptions as a loss for me.

You’ve spent multiple comments expressing that lack of care… which doesn’t make it seem like you don’t care, but instead makes it seem like this bugs you because you feel its unfair, and you’ve said as much here.

Only because you and other people have spent multiple comments not understanding me so I’m only repeating myself. I’m only commenting because this is the third shit stirring post by the same user, and I only chimed in to another ml user that I’m not bothered if people decide to block ml because it’s a win to me to avoid immature people and in my view a loss to others because I spend most of my time on lemmy giving tech support to others.

But you are engaging with them… I am very confused

No, I engaged with someone else on ml, and then you couldn’t resist engaging with me. I don’t see what’s confusing about this. I don’t think I’m missing anything by not being able to engage with this post. Yet it’s here, so I’m engaging with it. That doesn’t mean I value this engagement or would miss it at all. Let me again repeat that my preference is to ignore these types of posts, which is why I refrained from commenting on the other similar posts OP has made in the past. It’s kind of silly to assume that engagement means you necessarily value the content.

Do you similarly think engaging with a racist by arguing with them means you must also value their content or presence? Of course not. Chiming in to say that I would not miss them, but also disagree with their views, is not contradictory.

Anyhow, I think I’ll go back to ignoring these types of posts. I think this kind of blanket assumption about people based on their instance is a net negative to the community. That said, I don’t think it’s at all inconsistent to both view OPs attitude as immature while simultaneously not caring if they decide to block ml, precisely because being blocked by immature people is not a net negative to me.

Merry Christmas!

To me it’s not a loss

I think it’s a loss to other people

These are not mutually exclusive and not contradictory at all

That seems like you’re going out of your way to ascribe malice

Do you not see the post at the top of this thread??

You can’t think of any reasons someone might not want to block but might still complain?

Imo this is not complaining, this is shit stirring. This meme isn’t even acknowledging that there are multiple types of people on ml, but advocates for treating everyone the same. Do you not see an issue with that?

I mean here you are simultaneously advocating for not throwing out the baby with the bathwater

This is your assumption. All I’ve said here is that I don’t care, I’m only commenting because this is the 3rd shit stirring post made by this OP, and I consider it a loss to those who block ml, but not to me. I’ve glossed over multiple posts like this from OP in the past so I clearly do not care if people view ml like this, it only reinforces the fact that I’m not missing anything by not being able to engage with people who are this immature.

When I say I don’t usually engage with these types of posts, it’s because I remember several others like it that I chose to ignore. Checking OPs history, it seems they posted every other one that I remember. I don’t count it as a loss at all if people like this make their own decision to block ml because I’d rather not see this kind of drama all the time. It doesn’t matter to me if they see it as a loss or a gain, I’m still gonna be here engaging with and helping people who need help in various communities. To me it’s not a loss if someone isn’t able to receive my help if they decide that it’s not worth it to them - that’s their decision to make, and I’d rather not worry about people who are going to behave like OP.

The constant handwringing and wishing about ml users suffering more from being blocked because you don’t like certain users honestly reeks of a sore ex who wants to twist the knife. If ml bothers certain users (I’m looking at OP especially) then just block ml and stop posting about it repeatedly (looking at you OP).

Sure, but seeing posts like this encouraging discounting other people based on the instance they signed up on doesn’t make me want to switch instances so I can spend more time with them. Posts like these make it harder to care about what I’m missing tbh.

Honestly these kinds of posts don’t bother me. I’m usually on here answering people’s tech questions or trying to provide useful resources to people. If they don’t see it because they have ml blanket blocked then that’s their loss.

The iCloud share is no longer valid, is there a mirror somewhere?

I’m upvoting this just so more people have to see it

Hopefully forgefed (based on activity pub) helps with this - in theory you could use your codeberg account to open issues on repos hosted on other instances. I believe forgejo is working on implementing it.

Supposedly comaps has carplay support as of like 2 months ago, according to a page on their website

The investigation noted that 52 of the 64 complaints were identically worded and focused solely on the program’s choice of guest, suggesting an organised campaign.

Lmao. Who could’ve guessed.

I love to see this. It is kinda weird to have to use rolls, but I guess the mechanical complexity of separating sheets and feeding them reliably is not fit for an MVP. I wonder how accurately the cut sheets would stack with individual sheets of another brand.

https://archive.is/vfR8M