because as crap as the US is right now, it’s got to be better than China.

It really doesn’t

I think there are

Yes, and that’s the arrogance that I was talking out; thinking that your completely baseless thoughts are worth sharing.

someone told me my understanding was wrong

From what I can tell, your understanding is still wrong, given this “I was a victim of propaganda” talk.

Humble would have been not asserting it in the first place.

You weren’t “a victim of propaganda”, my god, have some humility. What you were was ignorant.

The value is that maybe in the future you will think twice before popping off about subjects you literally don’t know the first thing about. Just to be clear, thinking that Russia still claims to be communist in 2018 is like thinking Germany still claims to be fascist or France still claims to be a monarchy. There’s nothing wrong with being ignorant, so long as you’re humble about it.

they stilled claimed to be communist.

They don’t though. They don’t now, they didn’t in 2018, and anyone with even the most cursory knowledge on the subject could tell you that.

What is it with westerners arrogantly giving their opinion on things they clearly don’t know the first thing about?

Liberals turning the word “fascist” from a specific term that allowed the analysis and identification of specific political phenomena, into just yet another synonym for “the bad guys”, has been instrumental in allowing actual fascism to rise again unchecked.

i just meant the propaganda was tankist in origin

???

It absolutely fucking is not. It’s origin is clueless libs whos only knowledge of the subject dates back to the cold war.

Lol. Must knowledgeable liberal.

Mate, if you’re so fucking ignorant on the subject that you’ve never heard of the collapse of the Soviet union, you should not be commenting on it.

Zero “tankies” think Russia is communist; it’s a belief held entirely by ignorant western liberals like justanotherkay

Russia

Jesus Christ, the willingness of westerners to make statements about things they are completely ignorant of is astounding.

you need to ask the Uyghurs how they’re feeling about their experience under the communist government

Everytime people ask regular Uyghurs, they’re usually happy enough with it. I’m guessing you mean ask Adrian Zenz and the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation to tell the Uyghurs what they think.

Good to know that the definition of “tankie” has become so broad that it now includes “people who recognize non-Americans as people”

Yes, I understand that it is the lived experience of Americans, and I acknowledge that the Republicans do make life notably worse for many Americans (especially trans Americans). On the other hand, it’s pretty fucking annoying having to listen to chauvinist shitheals like Prole insist that the American perspective is the only one that exists.

No, it’s not a good point. The only difference between the two parties foreign policy is how the frame it to the domestic audience. As Prole is incapable of imagining foreigners as human, that’s all he cares about, but for those of us on the business end of American foreign policy it really doesn’t matter if the bombs are painted red or blue.

Aww, what’s the matter? Is endlessly repeating “you just don’t realize I’m right yet!” not as persuasive as you think?

I’m old enough to remember Trump’s last term, the one that had the exact same foreign policy as every other one.

How about this, try engaging those calcified empathy faculties for once and actually consider the perspective of a non-American.

Lol, alright shitlib Nostradamus. Will you have learned that foreigners are human by then?

The USA has killed orders of magnitudes more people in the last few years. Just, objectively.

No, I understand. I understand that, as an American, you only experience American foreign policy in how the administration’s framing of it makes you feel. I understand that the comforting lies and platitudes of the Democrats make you feel better than the blunt cruelty of the Republicans. I also understand that you are unable to conceptualize the idea of perspectives and experience outside of that of Americans.

Also, what’s this “you’re about to learn!” shit? The last Republican administration (the last Trump administration even!) was only four years ago, and it’s foreign policy was exactly the same as every other administration.

You really are an idiot