There’s no concept of “casual bigotry” as there’s no “ranked bigotry”. A bigot is a bigot the same way as a nazi is a nazi even if he only shares a meal with other known nazis.

No amount of sane washing can change their nature, only re-education and facing consequences for their choices will.

It’s time to stop being polite and understanding with people who have no sense of community or care for others around them, keeping this attitude will never solve the problem. If you show mercy to this people they will continue to resent you while feeling as victims of an unjust system (in their eyes) and will continue to spread their worldview to their spawn presenting it as a “counterculture” to the mainstream way of life keeping this circle of hate and victimisation alive.

We have to break the circuit by showing to their faces why they aren’t adapt to be living among us and we need to be clear in our messaging, otherwise any small window we will leave they will use it to maintain their positions and preach their gospel of hatred.

It’s useless man, people are just looking at their finances and their fake freedoms (I can choose between McDonald’s and Popeye what to eat!!! Muh freedom!!!) to understand that they’ve lost their actual freedoms with the patriot act and a series of sweeping changes to the rule of law due to the “war on terror” the USA have brought on since the start of the 2000s. Before that it was an all out attack against economic freedoms, starting with the cancellation of the differentiation between investment and saving banks until the loss in regulations against malpractices brought forward by corporations.

The best slave is the one who think he is free because he won’t fight back under no circumstances. They cannot see any chains on their wrists but are unable to see the (always shorter) leash around their neck. And they would die defending their masters, thinking to be fighting the good fight.

We can just try to present our position as clearly as possible, we could be opening the eyes of someone reading our comments and that’s all that matter.

Keep on keeping on dude

Those people are not leftists, they are children who never grow out of their egoistic phase and are unable to see the world through any other point of view than theirs. They want it all and they don’t care about other human beings, especially if those are not in their “tribe” or “family”. They see life as a zero sum game where if they see someone gaining something this must mean they are loosing something else of the same value.

They need to be excluded from society and reformed if they wish to return to be a part of it. I’m not blaming them, I’m calling for their punishment and exclusion from any and all part of a just society, independent from them being lied to or not. You can be fooled only for so long if you don’t want to know the truth; if you are still being fooled after decades of lies you’re not being lied to, you want to be lied to and this, to me, makes you as culpable as the one telling you you his lies. Why could there be so little “reformed” maga today if this wasn’t the case? (And be careful, those who today say to have understood the pain inflicted by this administration we’re only able to do so because they were the recipient of such pain. Would Trump not have messed with the prices of their trinkets they would still be foaming at the mouth at his rallies)

We tried to re-educate nazis here in Europe after WW2 but, as you can see from the most recent election results, this has not bore any fruit. Nazis don’t understand reason, they only understand violence and strength. The sooner you realise you have more in common with a bonobo than with a nazi the sooner you’ll realise they deserve nothing but scorn, contempt and a massive dose of violence to be kept in place.

Then your comment was such a load of shit that it was removed from a moderator. Either way the original comment we were replying to is no longer with us so I cannot tell the point you were arguing about in it, I inferred its contents from the first reply by NoneOfUrBusiness and the citations he provided with it.

Furthermore your reply to NoneOfUrBusiness answer to your original post was just a “no, you’re wrong and I’m right”. Such a level of discussion, you must be a sage in your community. If your community is a kindergarden .

Lastly you can have opinions, too bad they are shit opinions not supported by facts

If you still think like this after a first 4 years term in which Trump already showed his antidemocratic tendencies and another 4 years in which he only attacked his opposed political party doing nothing to find common ground with the other aisle in the interest of the common good, well, I don’t know how to tell you this but you are part of the problem as the 77 millions of people who voted for Trump in the last election.

If you’re unable to burst a bubble like the one surrounding the current GOP you shouldn’t be allowed to vote or express your ideas publicly. You don’t have the mental acuity necessary to form a coherent thought and you should be treated as such, until you prove yourself to have become better than whatever you are today.

It’s time to end this weak ass way to look at people who are actively supporting a fascist regime, stop justifying them and hold them accountable for their choices. Cut all contacts with them, work against them, antagonise them in any way you can. Stop pretending they are good people being lied to: they are bad people looking for someone who will lie to allow themselves to follow their worst instincts and then turn around when everything will be over saying “I was just following orders”

And yet you’re the one who cancelled his comment. Pray tell, is it not true that the rise in American authoritarianism started in the late 60es, when the government started to act in spite of what public opinions thought about its action in foreign countries and wars? If not, can you please post any proof supporting this thesis of yours? Because it’s sure as he’ll that I, as many others, will never take your word for granted if you aren’t able to support it with factual information.

Take your head out if your ass and realise that American (like most of us in the “developed” world) have been bought with pearls and trinkets to subdue their reasoning capabilities and voices to capitalism and its venomous fruits. The sooner you accept this ACTUAL FACT the sooner you can start fighting the good fight against capitalism and its cronies (who may also be your friends and family; not all capitalists drive around in nice cars or live in big villas. Most of them are “momentarily embarrassed billionaires” or delusional victims as I like to call them)