

You’re speculating that Kagi is actually astroturfing on Lemmy. That’s why I asked for an account you believe to be doing it on Kagi’s behalf.
You’re speculating that Kagi is actually astroturfing on Lemmy. That’s why I asked for an account you believe to be doing it on Kagi’s behalf.
So yah, the social media manager or marketing agency is getting paid. People organically posting because they genuinely like the service, aren’t. The former would be advertising. The later not.
Can you point to any accounts you think are doing Kagi astroturfing. IE being paid to advertise with. Because now it just sounds like you’re speculating.
If they aren’t paying anyone is it advertising? I’m not sure what you’re actually talking about anymore. Maybe I never did
Should I ask them about being paid? I’ve been doing it for free all this time.
I associate the word with money related activities
That’s a good thing. It costs money to provide services to people. The Fediverse is no different.
I’m not sure they do at all. There are just a bunch of Kagi users here.
That sounds good.
I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be able to interoperate at all. Just that this kind of thing isn’t, and never will be ideal. I’m pushing back on the idea, that one account for all the Fediverse is the best and greatest, that everyone should be striving for that goal.
It’s a principal of reality. Trying to make something that can do everything, will mean it’s not great at anything. Specialization is what allows society to grow to what it is. The Fediverse is no different.
That’s entirely dependent on the interface switching, or some kind of universal interface. That’s the part I have serous doubts about. Keep in mind you have to make a single interface that work better than all the others on their respective native systems. I’m not sure that’s possible.
That would be cool. Might be useful. Not sure it’s really possible.
Which I would never respond to on Mastodon, as it’s terrible for discussions.
I follow topics and have discussions on Lemmy, keep up with individuals and announcements on Mastodon, and look at cool photos on Pixelfed.
None of my accounts are following anything on other systems.
The reason I’m in this community is for discussions like this. We disagree on the nature of using he fundamental architecture of the Fediverse.
I think using Mastodon to engage in Lemmy discussions is extremely awkward without the threading to keep it all organized. Equally, Lemmy is designed specifically around following communities. Following individuals on Mastodon breaks the pattern of the feed. And good luck following either Mastodon accounts or Lemmy groups in Pixelfed.
However, having multiple decentralized servers within each system, is plenty of reason for the Fediverse to be better than a centralized platform. They don’t Need to interoperate with each other.
I have literally zero interest in cross pollination between social media types.
They each have their own interfaces that work best for their communities and content types. You’re always missing something trying to access one from another.
Yes.
Op isn’t expecting an all or nothing. I’m suggesting they should expect nothing. All isn’t even worth talking about.
And yes.
I’ve never deleted anything online. Never had a reason to. If I ever imagined a reason I’d want to delete something, I wouldn’t post it to begin with. Because I know I can’t delete it. See how that works. So what if I was wrong, or embarrassing, that’s part of being human, own you’re mistakes and move on. Don’t hide them. They are who you were. They are how you got where you are. They’re responsible for who you’ve become. Take pride in the failings of your past.
The current delete function states:
“Warning: this will permanently delete your account. The deletion may not always federate to other instances.”
The first part, I’m almost certain isn’t actually true.
The second part basically confirms what you’re asking for.
Yah. That could be stated explicitly on signup.
But to sum up what I said in other comments here; Not being able to delete things, is like the Internet’s version of gravity. Be glad it works, and don’t waste effort fighting it.
You’re still missing the fundamental reality of the situation.
Stuff online generally doesn’t get deleted. And almost never because you want it to. I think the EU passed a law about the “right to be forgotten”. But the reality is, that’s like fighting gravity. The effort and resources it takes to truly break orbit are far beyond most people’s, and even most government’s means. Same with truly deleting anything online.
Please, call me Steve.
Reality holds no responsibility to conform to anyone’s expectations. However, my decades in the reality of the internet have shaped my expectations. I never expect anything on the internet to be truly deleted. Accounts are locked, but they and everything associated with them still exists. If you contact support, and sufficiently prove you’re you, they can reinstate your account. In the rare cases they can’t, they make it abundantly clear, and explain why they can’t, in the deletion process.
Unless Lemmy specifically states all changes are guaranteed to be federated, I’d assume by default none will. I’ll reiterate, reality has no responsibility to conform to my expectations. Deletions may in fact be federated sometimes.
But that’s immaterial, since I don’t post anything with the expectation I’ll ever be able to delete it. An expectation built upon reality, not the reverse. An expectation I’m trying to impress on you.
Don’t you think that’s shifting the goalpost a bit? OP isn’t talking about something being archived they’re talking about a piece of content on social media still directly linking to that username.
What goal post? There is no actual, technical, difference, between archive and active. As soon as a post is made, it’s old, and part of the accessible archive of past posts and accounts.
A basic reality from the beginning of the internet, is that you once you make something publicly available, it’s out there. You can’t really ever take it back. It’s just a fundamental principal of how the internet works. A lot of people seem to forget that.
The problem isn’t in the system, but in your expectations.
You’re starting with a wrong assumption that things publicly available on the internet can simply be deleted. That’s not how any of this works.
Maybe that’s our fault. Maybe we weren’t clear enough back when you started using the internets. But It’s true, deleting things online is very difficult. You shouldn’t ever expect it to be simple or easy.
One didn’t allow down votes. Seemed like a good idea. I rarely down vote. But in practice, when I do it’s for a reason. And I want the option.
Another went down for roughly a week. So that didn’t work out.
Which is one reason I embraced Communick; a paid instance. Been here since.
That’s what the local feed is for.
I’m constantly surprised by people who don’t seem to understand what ALL means.